On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tuesday 13 Oct 2009 7:46:08 am Girish Venkatachalam wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > On Tuesday 13 Oct 2009 6:59:05 am Girish Venkatachalam wrote: >> >> Firebug is very very very powerful. ;)
I totally agree with this. I have been using it, with my team for quite some time. It has saved me a lot of trouble. >> >> Apache logs only tell you traffic stats and referrers and >> of course 404 errors and web server problems. Problems >> with configuring Apache. Apache server logs can give only 404 errors. And if you are saying that it is more than enough to find out why your page isn't showing up correctly or not, is just because of 404 errors, it clearly shows that you were, more often than not, using only off the shelf JS and CSS. This is not the case for most of the applications "others" do. We do develop custom JS and CSS for our own applications. 404 is rarely a case in these situations. >> But firebug is a javascript development and CSS development >> tool. What it can do for you is something like gdb/ Turbo C debugger for JS and CSS (if you have ever used anything of that sort). >> Have you done serious web development with javascript? > > no - as mentioned above, this is my personal point of view As mentioned above, firebug is not a tool to install and check off the shelf JS and CSS, but for building custom JS. Quite complicated ones, Complete Rich UI for example. Infact, even for checking off the shelf products, its easier to see the graph at the bottom of firefox than to open appache log files and grep for 404 errors and run through pages of it. >> It can be really painful since it is as rich a language as C >> in certain ways. Out of my 8 years exp in web-programming, most serious and difficult problems come only in JS and CSS. >> You most definitely need a friend like firebug. > > I do not - others may do JS and CSS programmers need it. If you are using off the shelf products, it is still useful, you never gave it a try. with regards, Natarajan. _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, email [email protected] with "unsubscribe <password> <address>" in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
