On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Mohan R <[email protected]> wrote: > Even though Lcaza is one of the founder of Gnome, This article is bit > overstated, The entire argument about linux not maintaining backwards > compatibility is bullshit (Just my opinion). Linux Desktop's base API's > (either Gnome libraries or KDE libraries) are very stable.
That is not completely true. The libraries that make up the toolkit do keep changing and backwards compatibility is more shoe-horned in than a principle. > I'm not sure if he is still in Gnome Foundation, or kicked out of it > long time back with his Mono. He noticed an opportunity now to FUD, > because everyone hate Gnome3 and Linux Desktop is in dilemma with > various DE projects(cinnamon, mate, XFCE-revival etc.,). The list is visible from <http://www.gnome.org/foundation/membership/> > Gnome's base libraries (Gtk, Glib family) are rock-solid and no major > changes happened AFAIK. On top of it we have GStreamer, PulseAudio, > Telepathy, Avahi subsystem which have long proved their potential. On > the lower, we have these *Kits,d-bus and systemd from freedesktop.org > (pollkitd, udiskd, packagekit etc.,) which are making life easier. If you do read what Miguel writes the theme of his argument is that Linux ended catching up with OS X rather than setting things in place well up front. Now there can be merit in the argument that the community driven development provides a collaborative space wherein the strict 'stack' control will not really work out. The issue that his piece skirts is the scope of the "Desktop" - that entity spans the usual "computing hardware at home" and, the "computing hardware at massive deployment of workstations" to "computing hardware doing client side crunching" > The only problem is, not all of these layers (Kernel + service-layer > (feedesktop.org stuff) + Gnome3) synced well in major distros. > > Fedora is the only distro which put all these things fully, to some > extend Arch. Ubuntu went their way with Unity, Debian going their way to > Xfce, Mint went with Cinnamon and Mate, Gentoo accepted gnome3, but not > so quick to accept all freedesktop.org stuffs because they play big in > service layer(Yeah!! Lennart (Po[e]*tter)(ing)* f???ed udev with his > systemd http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/dev/259045) This is interesting - you take Miguel apart on his choice of Mono and, you take apart Lennart on systemd. Step back for the moment without prejudice and think about this - Lennart has practically re-jigged 3 fundamental pieces of the Linux architecture (and, Miguel/Nat along with other re-jigged the desktop environment with enough horsepower to make it relevant). > I think Linux Desktop is alive and ready for BigTime. Its future will be > decided not by the DE projects, but by the distros. The distributions are the carriers - the upstream is where the decisions matter. Changes therein decide how much the distributions can release-engineer and ship. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay <https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan> _______________________________________________ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
