> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:38:31 +0530
> From: Narendiran <[email protected]>
>>
>> If most of the content is going to be on HTML, Javascript and so on,
>> those
>> who are interested in linux content will go elsewhere and the list will
>> become a place where web developers hang out.
>
> I don't think there is anything wrong about what Girish is trying to
> do here. This is LUG but that does not mean we have to close our minds
> to other technical concepts. Only rarely do we some truly 'Linux only'
> posts, and most of the them are about people asking for simple noob
> stuff without even googling, or people asking about software
> installations etc ... oh and even obituaries. Most of these rarely add
> value to the knowledge of the community. And what was it about this
> being for web developers? For those of you who don't know,  javascript
> is now a firstclass citizen in the gnome community. You can develop
> full fledged GTK3 and gnome DESKTOP applications using javascript. You
> may find it usefull to learn.
>
> Who are the people using linux anyway? Right now, only people willing
> to experiment with cool new stuff (mostly programmers) and your
> average Joe who uses it only because its installed in their work
> machine. I doubt the later will join a mailing list like this. And I
> don't see why we should not discuss the programming languages (even
> web). Girish and few others here take time to type long mails to share
> their knowledge with us. When people with long experience and strong
> industry background have something to say, its better to listen
> instead of trying to find faults.
>
> Its true that we are LUG, but by bashing anything and everything
> nonlinux (including windows stuff), we are not behaving any better
> than those apple and windows fanboys. We have to be more open to FOSS
> stuff in general and discuss anything of interest. We can gain
> something just be seeing two people discuss BSD instead of chasing
> them away in the name of linux. I hope we see more posts like this in
> the future.
> --

I don't disagree that javascript is useful or for that matter any web
technology is useful. The problem is if it is decided that ALL any ANY
technology should be discussed on ilugc merely because some of these
technologies may be deployed on linux, then we can might as well entertain
discussions on how to do 3D modelling in Blender, how to use Hadoop, how
to programme in PHP, MySQL query optimisation, Node.js programming, Java,
Boost libraries in C/C++, Android development etc.

Again, not that any of those technologies aren't useful. But then we would
have made ilugc so generic that pretty much any software can be discussed
here. If that is what the moderators want, then so be it.

About who is using Linux - Linux is heavily used in various industries
now. Linux is no longer the niche OS that it used to be. I use it pretty
much exclusively and so also a lot of people who work with me. Some of the
larger firms even here in India use Linux for hosting their servers, and
quite a few of the organisations even have their desktops running on
Linux.

When people like me come to ilugc we come with the expectation that there
will be content here which is closely related to linux and not just
tangentially related.

Examples:
Linux installation and setup
Linux kernel
Core applications - eg: X, Gnone, KDE, Unity, Wayland, ..
File systems
Discussions about drivers and issues with drivers (example, how to get
Airtel/Aircel/Whatever 2G/3G Dongles working with Linux)
Upgrade issues
Security issues and alerts for Linux and core services such as Apache,
Bind, etc
Linux networking
Package manager and related updates
FOSS Conferences
News on organisations, colleges etc requiring help with Linux
Tips on unusual linux commands
News about any government initiative related to Linux or opensource

And of course obituaries. All the people whose obituaries were listed here
were stalwarts in FOSS circles in India - Kg, Chitnis etc. Many of us have
dealt with these people personally.

I have been involved in Linux since at least 1995 and I subscribed to
ilugc around 1997-1998 or so, I think. (I don't have the old posts with me
anymore).

It will be sad if ilugc loses focus. In my humble opinion, it would be
better to concentrate on a few areas and have a clearer focus for ilugc
even if the volume of discussion reduces rather than opening up the
discussion to any subject however tangentially related to Linux.

But of course, this is just my opinion. The moderators will need to decide
the direction.

Thank you,
Prem

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