>>>>> "Amit" == amit soni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Nope. It is like: Linux Techie : Here, take this manual. It
>> teaches you how to make a plane. If you cant understand any
>> part of the manual, only then ask me about the specific
>> difficult part. Show me that you made an effort yourself to
>> learn at first. I really cant afford to sit down with you in
>> the plane and teach you step by step - I have a job to do and a
>> family to support. For that either get a paid trainer, or a
>> paid pilot - ofcourse I may be available for these two
>> positions. ;)
Amit> Yikes!! This gives an impression that all Linux Techie lead
Amit> a hand to mouth life. I thought Linuxers/GNUers are driven
Amit> by the statement "The most courageous people in the world
Amit> are volunteers".
Amit> However, most of the replies that come from "gurus" in this
Amit> mailing list are like, "newbies need to be looked down
Amit> upon". No doubt there are words of encouragement that appear
Amit> to just "float" all over.
Amit> But when a newbie asks a "technical" query. The replies have
Amit> a tone " HUH! You don't even know that!, get lost, read
Amit> this, this and this, do a million sit-ups and then come
Amit> back, I might explain you the real answer."
Nah, you have to distinguish between looking down on newbies (which I
don't) and looking down on idiots, for some user-defined value of
``idiot'' (which I do). It's fine to ask newbie questions on the
list; OTOH the list is not meant to replace simple Google searches.
To take an example, asking ``Has anyone had problems using
RTL8139-based ethernet cards?'' on the list should get you reasonable
responses. Asking ``Do RTL8139-based cards work under Linux?'',
however, is a bit dumb, since Google can answer that question faster
and without consuming anyone else's time or bandwidth. Similarly,
ranting about stuff like ``MS must realise that they're harming all of
humanity and make Winduhs source GPL'' are likely to get short shrift
on the list.
In other words, it's fine if you lack knowledge but it's not fine if
you refuse to use the brains that $DEITY gave you.
Amit> Could be due to the fact that.... 1) The guru is tired of
Amit> replying to stupid questions 2) The guru is conceited. 3)
Amit> The guru doesn't want to be with newbies any more. 4) guru
Amit> is not a guru, but simply wants to be called a guru.
Or (5) All of the above ;)
Amit> For eg. Ghane replies as if he is going to skin a newbie
Amit> alive if he/she dared to ask what the command to see a
Amit> directory listing is! The above example has not much to do
Amit> with the rest of the mail.
I don't know... Ghane normally keeps quiet unless (a) he gets a chance
to display his rotten wit and put me down <g,d&r> or (b) someone makes
completely irrational or baseless statements in a message. Haven't
really seen him put anyone down for lack of knowledge yet.
Amit> If I was a guru I'd probably know.
Amit> Having, said all that, I as a novice, I still feel nice to
Amit> be a part of ILUGD. Perhaps the above is NOT true to that
Amit> extreme, but I do sense it sometimes.
Regards,
-- Raju
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