--- LinuxLingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> [flamewar begins]
 (LL is wrong )
> argh! this is what i completely *hate* about ILUG-D.
> it is so
> newbie-unfriendly and aspires to be completely
> elitist!
> :-(
 Helloaa ilugd is not newbie unfriendly. I just dont
want the same presentation to take place over and over
again. I had already suggested a way (in form of
documents) to be distributed to newbies. If you can
come up with a better idea we will except it with all
the gratitude.

 This is not just a newbies group, there are equal
number of members in the group who know what linux is
and even several newbies know what GNU/Linux
philosophy is.
 Secondly LL-ji will you point me out how can ilugd
would suddenly become newbies friendly by having a
presentation on GNU/Linux philosophy and rest of
presentaions on securing linux boxes, a topic which
will pass over the head of newbies??
 If you remember we had already decided to conduct
newbies meet again and again at some time interval, so
you can't say ilugd is user unfriendly.
 To accomdate newbies in such a meet you need to give
introduction to why and how security, and not on
GNU/Linux philosophy!!!!!
 I belive if Raj speaks on GPG it will be a good
introduction on how and why to secure. 
> 
> fire and brimstone man! did you know that india has
> a population of over
> 1 billion people, and yet there are only 9 PCs per
> 1,000 people here.
> all factors included, that means actual pc users are
> just 5% to 10% of
> our population. with gnulinux diffusion at probably
> 1% to 2%, that means
> we are are a tiny droplet in a vast ocean. and we
> think we should
> further build walls around ourselves and tell the
> rest of our brethren
> to F.O. !
> 
> grrrrrr!!!
 grrr!!! show such numbers to a bean counter not to
me..
> 
> every single day, there will be atleast 10 newbies
> to gnulinux born in
> this country, and this number should hopefully touch
> 100 a day.
> sarcastically speaking, i would be quite happy to
> see ilug-d shoot
> itself in the foot by alienating and brushing off
> newbies. and i know
> newbies won't speak up on this issue. they are
> usually quite terrified
> and nervous with the technojargon + flamewars +
> netequitte flames that
> they usually receive.

 See who is starting flame war this time. 
> 
> so, every ilug-d meet must have a newbie
> orientation. for 15 minutes. a
> welcome to the community. a special gesture of
> encouragement and support
> on this precarious path of migration.

 See now you are turning away from your own words,
this kind of introduction is completely different from
he presentation of raj on introduction to gnu/linx
philosophy.
> 
> AshLin, don't you agree?
> 
> [flameware ends]
[Me hoping so]
> 
> :-(
> LL
> 
> 
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