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Hi Ghane,
>>>>> "Ghane" == Sanjeev Gupta <Sanjeev> writes:
Ghane> On Saturday, April 17, 2004 2:49 PM [GMT+0800=SGT], Raj
Ghane> Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You may not like it but you'd have to live with it. Just as
>> you have the right to embed security into your software, others
>> have the right to study, hack and bypass that security.
Ghane> Rights are defined by law, and law may make such "study"
Ghane> illegal. There are no "innate" rights in the Indian
Ghane> Constitution[1]. "Rights" which are granted today may be
Ghane> removed tomorrow[2].
Agreed.
>> I think you're missing the important point here -- stealing
>> music is illegal, but providing tools that MAY be used to steal
>> music isn't. If we support the banning of tools that may
>> possibly be used for illegal purposes we'll have to ban just
>> about everything -- starting with computers, Winduhs, Linux,
>> gdb, nmap, C compilers, Perl, netstat, ping, mutt, Emacs,
>> EVERYTHING!
>>
>> Remember -- it's not the tool that is illegal, it's the use to
>> which it is put by an individual that is or is not.
Ghane> True, in general. However, tools may be banned, even if
Ghane> the purpose that they may be used for is not clear, or
Ghane> proven. Examples include the ban of knifes with blades
Ghane> longer than 6 inches[3], the transport of cultures for
Ghane> communicable diseases, etc.
Ghane> Raju, I agree with you fully, and we are in good company,
Ghane> Hume, Franklin, Mills, et al. However, the law is what the
Ghane> law says it is, not what is right, or reasonable.
Also agreed. However in this case the right to innovate, even if it
hurts a business, has not been assigned or declined. Apple is
assuming that they do have the right to stop development and
propagation of a program that may hurt their business. I believe that
we should fight that assumption.
If we do fight, the outcome is unclear. The free software community,
the hacker community, all of us may lose. However it's not on my
agenda to lie back and accept the inevitable, and inevitable it
certainly shall be if we don't question the whole basis of Apple's
legality in sending the notice.
Regards,
- -- Raju
Ghane> [snip]
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Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/
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