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Mithun Bhattacharya wrote:

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|I dont think Raj was talking about Templating mechanism. Yes templating
|is important. Yes it is also highly missused. Missused in the term that
|the template shouldnt drive the application rather the application
|should drive the template.
|
|What Raj is talking about is separating the business logic from the
|templating mechanism. I dont know much about PHP but I guess Raj is
|saying these two layers are not actually independant layers in PHP
|based implementations.
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|
What makes anybody think  you can separate business logic with
presentation in PHP . Templating mechanism like smarty have only one
job to keep content and logic separate . Otherwise  Php has good OO
support and framework implementing those or writing a good code is
function of good programmer not programming language , you can
implement MVC or any design pattern in PHP like MVC , IOC, Factory etc
. I don t know any  OSS project based on php  which doest does it .
I can give lava equivalents
~ MVC Struts -> SeaGull , Mojavi , phpCake, Binary Cloud,Prado (IOC),
etc   ORM /DB Abstraction Hibernate -> Propel, ADODB,PEAR etc Testing
Juint  :- Php Unit  IDE phpeclipse,php edit, zend studio, bl
(commericial),blue fish  komodo  Logging Log log4j-> log4php  php
caching -> mmcache , php compiling -> Zend encoder  and list goes
on.................................
plus check out more than 5000 classes at phpclases.org and pear repo etc

I hope this info above will help anybody who is planning enterprise
or a large app on php  ( also check out
http://www.activegrid.com/about/about.php )


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