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Today's Topics:

1. Meeting 7pm tomorrow, 18/1, to discuss setting up a FOSS
clearing-house site (Gora Mohanty)
2. Re: [Fwd: Re: [svlug] How to tell which flavor of Linux is
installed?] (Mithun Bhattacharya)
3. Re: [Fwd: Re: [svlug] How to tell which flavor of Linux is
installed?] (Mayank Jain)
4. Re: [Fwd: Re: [svlug] How to tell which flavor of Linux is
installed?] (Mithun Bhattacharya)
5. Re: [Fwd: Re: [svlug] How to tell which flavor of
(???? ?????? Wah Java !!)
6. Re: [Fwd: Re: [svlug] How to tell which flavor of Linux is
installed?] (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay)
7. Re: NAS idea (Prashant Verma)
8. ext3 file format (Nitin Gupta)
9. Re: ext3 file format (Gora Mohanty)
10. Re: ext3 file format (Nitin Gupta)
11. Re: ext3 file format (Gora Mohanty)
12. Re: ext3 file format (Nitin Gupta)
13. Re: ext3 file format (Gora Mohanty)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:46:43 +0000 (GMT)
From: Gora Mohanty 
Subject: [ilugd] Meeting 7pm tomorrow, 18/1, to discuss setting up a
FOSS clearing-house site
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Hi,
There has been fairly widespread interest in setting up a website
that will act as an online forum for LUGs in India, as well as providing
single-stop access to commonly encountered FOSS problems, and
providing news and publicity about FOSS in India. This was discussed
at foss.in, and amongst ourselves, and has also found support from
the NRCF, etc. It might even be possible to find funding for part of
the time for someone developing and maintaining such a site. The
site itself will most likely be hosted at linux-india.
We are planning to meet at 7pm tomorrow, 18/1, at Raj Mathur's
place to discuss this. The address is BB3/G, DDA flats, Munirka, and
is quite close to the main Munirka highway. Please feel free to contact
me for directions.

Regards,
Gora


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:04:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Mithun Bhattacharya 
Subject: Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: Re: [svlug] How to tell which flavor of
Linux is installed?]
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--- nipra 
wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ set | grep BASH_VERSINFO
> BASH_VERSINFO=([0]="3" [1]="1" [2]="5" [3]="1" [4]="release"
> [5]="i486-pc-linux-gnu")
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

Seems some of you guys dont read the obvious thing which is the
variable name - it is Bash version not Debian version.



Mithun

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:35:47 +0530
From: Mayank Jain 
Subject: Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: Re: [svlug] How to tell which flavor of
Linux is installed?]
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On 1/17/06, Mithun Bhattacharya wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ set | grep BASH_VERSINFO
> > BASH_VERSINFO=([0]="3" [1]="1" [2]="5" [3]="1" [4]="release"
> > [5]="i486-pc-linux-gnu")
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
>
> Seems some of you guys dont read the obvious thing which is the
> variable name - it is Bash version not Debian version.

Certainly it might now work on all platforms & its just the BASH
version, but atleast it allows identification of a stock RH/Fedora
installation. Likewise, /etc/issue.net can be changed anytime, but
atleast it allows you to identify a system "in some cases".

There can be zillion of other things that dont have a set strategy...
OS fingerprinting can be one example, but a cumulative effect of
various mechanisms can give surprisingly accurate results!

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:19:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Mithun Bhattacharya 
Subject: Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: Re: [svlug] How to tell which flavor of
Linux is installed?]
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--- Mayank Jain wrote:

> Certainly it might now work on all platforms & its just the BASH
> version, but atleast it allows identification of a stock RH/Fedora
> installation. Likewise, /etc/issue.net can be changed anytime, but
> atleast it allows you to identify a system "in some cases".
> 
> There can be zillion of other things that dont have a set strategy...
> OS fingerprinting can be one example, but a cumulative effect of
> various mechanisms can give surprisingly accurate results!

Bash version will tell you just that the version of Bash you are using.
Simillarly OS fingerprinting will tell you which version of the kernel
is running.

What I have been saying is that to know specifically which version of a
distribution is installed just follow the strategy which the
distribution uses to determine version.

RedHat : /etc/redhat-release
Fedora : /etc/fedora-release
Debian : /etc/debian-release
Slackware : /etc/slackware-release

For a more complete list read this:
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/11251.html



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:20:10 +0530
From: ???? ?????? "Wah Java !!" 
Subject: Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: Re: [svlug] How to tell which flavor of
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For LSB (http://www.linuxbase.org/) compliant Linux distros
do:
cat /etc/lsb-release

and I remember that Fedora ((or Redhat distros), currently I'm not on
Fedora) when boot prints:

Welcome to Fedora Linux

so, check for the initial scripts that are to be executed the boot
time. I'd seen that code but I don't remember.

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:10:57 +0530
From: Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 
Subject: Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: Re: [svlug] How to tell which flavor of
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Mithun Bhattacharya wrote:

> What I have been saying is that to know specifically which version of a
> distribution is installed just follow the strategy which the
> distribution uses to determine version.
> 
> RedHat : /etc/redhat-release
> Fedora : /etc/fedora-release
> Debian : /etc/debian-release
> Slackware : /etc/slackware-release

For tolerably LSB compliant systems lsb_release -a might do the trick.

Rgds
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:42:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Prashant Verma 

Subject: Re: [ilugd] NAS idea
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--- Mithun Bhattacharya wrote:
> If my understanding is correct a simple NAS is:
> 1. A storage space available over the network
> 2. Fault tolerant
> 3. Expandable
> 4. Transparent
> 5. Compatible across OSes
> 
> The way I see it is I need the following to get it
> going
> 1. Gigabit network
> 2. RAID 1/5
> 3. LVM
> 4. RAID and LVM can be configured to handle hot swap
> 5. Share disk space using NFS/SAMBA

Those who have been tracking this thread might want to
read this (rather enjoyable) discussion as well:

http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/06/01/16/1840209.shtml

Prashant Verma




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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:53:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Nitin Gupta 
Subject: [ilugd] ext3 file format
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Hello,


Somehow my ext3 partition of linux got crashed. It have all the important data 
including emails. I tried a number of software, but none of it was successful. 
Is there any way, we can get my data from there???

Please help me . 


Regards,
Nitin Gupta



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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:04:49 +0000 (GMT)
From: Gora Mohanty 
Subject: Re: [ilugd] ext3 file format
To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list 
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Nitin Gupta wrote:
> Somehow my ext3 partition of linux got crashed. It have all the
> important data including emails. I tried a number of software, but none
> of it was successful. Is there any way, we can get my data from
> there???
[...]
It would help if you gave us more details, and describe what you tried. What
does simply running fsck on the partition give you?

Regards,
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:07:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Nitin Gupta 
Subject: Re: [ilugd] ext3 file format
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Firstly it got corrupted, so i ran e2fsck on it. While it was running, my 
system got restarted(power failure) and it never started back. :(
then i tried commands like tune2fs, dump2fs etc etc... and by default wrote 
mke2fs :( which made it a new partition and removed all of my data. 

Hope this might help. 

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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:56:22 +0000 (GMT)
From: Gora Mohanty 
Subject: Re: [ilugd] ext3 file format
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Nitin Gupta wrote: > Firstly it got corrupted, so i ran e2fsck on it. While it 
was running, my
> system got restarted(power failure) and it never started back. :(
> then i tried commands like tune2fs, dump2fs etc etc... and by default
> wrote mke2fs :( which made it a new partition and removed all of my
> data. 
Umm, sorry if I am stating the obvious, but maybe you should have asked
or searched Google before trying random commands. It might have been
possible to recover it even from the power failure in the middle of the fsck,
but if you have really run mke2fs, your file system has been remade, and
all your data are lost. It might be possible to recover some of it if you can
find a real Linux data recovery expert, but their services will be quite
expensive.

Regards,
Gora


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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:03:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Nitin Gupta 
Subject: Re: [ilugd] ext3 file format
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Hello,


I am ready to shed my pockets for my emails, but i want someone real expert who 
can do it. Is anyone of you know a real linux recovery expert? Also, how much 
will he charge??

I am thinking to visit nehru palace tomorrow and see, anyone there might be 
able to do something. Any ideas, will it beneficial or not?

Regarding usage of commands, yeah i know i made the boo boo. :(

Gora Mohanty wrote: Nitin Gupta wrote: > Firstly it got corrupted, so i ran 
e2fsck on it. While it was running, my
> system got restarted(power failure) and it never started back. :(
> then i tried commands like tune2fs, dump2fs etc etc... and by default
> wrote mke2fs :( which made it a new partition and removed all of my
> data. 
Umm, sorry if I am stating the obvious, but maybe you should have asked
or searched Google before trying random commands. It might have been
possible to recover it even from the power failure in the middle of the fsck,
but if you have really run mke2fs, your file system has been remade, and
all your data are lost. It might be possible to recover some of it if you can
find a real Linux data recovery expert, but their services will be quite
expensive.

Regards,
Gora


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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:56:22 +0000 (GMT)
From: Gora Mohanty 
Subject: Re: [ilugd] ext3 file format
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Nitin Gupta wrote:
> I am ready to shed my pockets for my emails, but i want someone
> real expert who can do it. Is anyone of you know a real linux
> recovery expert? Also, how much will he charge??

Sorry, no idea on any of these. I am actually not sure that it is even 
possible.

> I am thinking to visit nehru palace tomorrow and see, anyone there
> might be able to do something. Any ideas, will it beneficial or not?

Make sure that you do not pay money up front. I would be surprised if
you found anyone with the required expertise at Nehru Place. Search
Google instead, and make a binary copy of your disk to another one
before doing anything more with it.

Regards,
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