nipra wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Prabhat Sandheliya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Apr 5, 2006 3:30 PM > Subject: [Fsf-friends] Ankit Fadia : The real picture > To: [email protected] > > > Dear All, > > Yesterday (03-04-2006)I attended a seminar by a so-called "Hacking Guru" > Ankit Fadia, at DAVV, Indore (MP) auditorium. I just want to share my > feelings with you. > > The Seminar was a complete failure, though it was attended by about well > over 100 people, but was a complete disaster. > > The very first thing by which I was offended badly was using the sacred word > "Hacking" to demonstrate something we, the hackers, call cracking. The > seminar topic was "Ethical Hacking", now I want to ask Mr Fadia, what is > unethical about hacking ? Hacking is very positive word and there in no need > to put "Ethical" before it. By the way his seminar topic should be "Ethical > Cracking". > > If you really want to become a hacker, please read an article by a real > hacker, Eric Steven Raymond (ESR). The man who changed the history by > writing a paper "Cathedral and Bazaar". please read the article here : > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html<http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/hacker-howto.html> > > The people who can not differentiate between hacking and cracking, should > read an article by the GOD of hackers Richad M Stallman (RMS), the man who > started GNU movement all by himself. The gcc (compiler), gdb (debugger), > emacs (editor) are some of the most popular softwares in the world written > by him. Please read the article here : > http://www.outpost9.com/reference/jargon/jargon_69.html > > The things Fadia demonstrated were ancient techniques used by crackers to > break into some one's machine. Now a days even 10 year olds can download > these tools from Internet to control others' machines. Can we call them > hackers ?? If he calls it hacking, I doubt if he understands the term even > "Cracking", leave hacking altogether. This childish behavior is called > script kiddie. > > IP spoofing, SQL Injection, password cracking softwares, Trojan horse > programs, these are the tools of cyber criminals. So I wonder what is the > significance of the term "Ethical" here ?? > > In the entire session I kept waiting for some program or utility, written by > himself. But I don't thing he had something like this to share with > audience. The entire session was demonstration of third party utilities, and > the saddest thing was no mention of the name of any author of any utility. > He didn't care to give some credits to the utility developers. What a shame > !!! > > Mr Fadia, I real hacker always respect the creativity of others, and before > using their work proper credits are given, this is the hacker's attitude. > It's not like that, you download something from Internet, use it and forget > the person, who made it. That's pretty mean. > > Second most annoying thing was that he calls himself a "hacker" and was > using a Windows XP operating system ???? > > I have been in to computers for the past 10 years and I never come across > any real hacker who uses Windows. I met Brian(Apache creator), Andy Cleen, > Alon cox, Rusty (all networking gods), RMS (the GOD himself) but all of them > were using some or other form of Unix or Linux. > > Come on, MR Fadia, Windows is the worst OS in the world, full of security > holes, so what is the point to break into a Windows machine ???? What do > you want to prove ???? > > He only once mentioned Linux, just to tell how you can use it's live CD to > boot a Windows machine and cracke the password. > > Actually, before attending the seminar, I Googled a lot about Fadia and his > work. But what I could find was self acclaiming statement by Fadia about > himself and his future and just crap, crap and crap by technology illiterate > Indian news papers' reports. > > I just want to share my findings with you. > > Vulnerabilities patches by Fadia = 0 (He may know how to break > in, but doesn't know how to fix up) > Bugtraq id's by Fadia = 0 > Hacking / Security tool by fadia = 0 (He simply Goolge and > download the tools from Internet, that's not cracking. Actual cracker > is the > programmer, but Fadia never ever gives due credits. Now that's not hacking, > that's > stealing) > Any open source software by Fadia = 0 (He is afraid of suggesting > Linux to people, 'coz it's secure) > Any Linux or Windows software security patch = 0 > Any recommendation or recognition by Real Hacker Community = 0 (They > laugh at him. He is just a kid) > Software / Cryptography patents by Fadia = 0 > Algorithms by Fadia = 0 > Any official citation by FBI/CIA/CBI for Fadia = 0 (They don't even > bother about any explanation) > Any confirmation of his self-claims = 0 (Nobody, expect > him knows, if they are real) > Any confirmation of him decrypting Osama's message = 0 > (Hahahahahahahaha) > Any original technical tutorial or book by Fadia = 0 (He simply copy > the things and never he never ever gives due credits to the > > original authors.) > Any originality in his tutes or books = 0 (Hahahahahahaha) > Skill level of Fadia = Only God > knows !!! > > > I tried to read a few books by him, but to my wonder some part of his books > are nothing but simple "copy and paste" material from well known sites for > Windows registry editing. Please visit www.winguides.com and compare the > material with his first book. Oh God ! this is the clear violation of > intellectual property rights of the website. Please inform the webmaster. I > have done it already. > > I was astonished by the course he came to promote here, "Ethical hacker > certified by Ankit Fadia" ! He sill is child in hacking field, and he is > giving the certificates for hacking ????? And worst thing, Reliance web > world is promoting it. What a shame !!! Have all gone mad ? Can't they see > ? > > Unfortunately, question and answer round was cut from the seminar, that's > also because of Fadia arrived there one hour late. Well, that's India's > celebrity style statement. Otherwise, I would have asked all these questions > to him there only. > > Anyways, I went to him at the end of the seminar, and asked if Windows is so > vulnerable, can he suggest audience to use Linux rather than Windows. And > the reply came was straight "NO". What a shame ??? > > I understood the reason, why he said no. The reason is same why Microsoft > does not patch up it's OS. Plain economics. If you make system secure with > Linux who is going to ask for people like Fadia, so called "security expert" > ??? > > I want to make an appeal to all of you, please make all of your friends > aware of these facts. Let one should not get undeserved advantage. I also > want to appeal news papers, please do not make a hero out of nothing. Stop > polluting the honest media by prejudiced reports. > > And at the end I want to tell Mr Fadia, that I don't have any personal > problem with you or your achievements, but please behave properly in hacking > community. We hackers are very positive people we never ever try to harm > anybody, until he comes to our or our philosophy's way. Please stop calling > your self a hacker, if does not understand the hacker culture. > > And for god sake, stop behaving like a child, now you are in college, so > GROW UP !!! > > > Prabhat. > > PS : I am sending this mail to Mr Fadia, Reliance web world, most of Linux > mailing lists and all of my friends. 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Well, the whole Ankit Fadia episode can be described as: "अंधों की नगरी में काना राजा" Ashish -- आशीष शुक्ला alias "Wah Java !!" http://wahjava.blogspot.com/ The only key to optimal life is precision. -- Ashish Shukla "Wah Java !!" http://wahjava.blogspot.com/2006/03/useful-thought.html _______________________________________________ ilugd mailinglist -- [email protected] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
