Not meaning to be rude, but a lot of stuff in this email is actually 
misinformation and downright misleading.

Have you actually done any tests to highlight these issues ?

I dont personally have the time to go into most of the things but some of the 
stuff is just hard to swallow. eg. I can physically demonstrate an ext3 
filesystem outperform xfs on a standard  database load.

Frederick Noronha [फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या] wrote:
> lot of junk in there that you may never require. For example, if the
> machine is going to be used as a file server the on-board sound card
> is never going to be used, or if the machine is never to be connected

Would you like to share some numbers to demonstrate how much performance you 
loose with a sound card enabled on the bios, with its .ko not loaded ? oprofile 
reports would be nice to go along with your numbers.

> During installation do try your best to avoid software raid and lvm
> unless absolutely required. These are two lovely features but both of
> 'em degrade performance considerably. 

again, how much is 'considerable' in your books ? Here are some numbers from a 
machine I was working on a few minutes back. I actually went through the 
motions 
of doing 2 stock installs for centos-5/x86_64 one with lvm and the other 
without 
lvm just for the purpose of bring in specific numbers. Here is what I get with 
lvm:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# df -h
Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
                       901G  533G  322G  63% /
/dev/sda1              99M   19M   76M  20% /boot
tmpfs                 1.7G     0  1.7G   0% /dev/shm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# hdparm -tT /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00

/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00:
  Timing cached reads:   2444 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1222.07 MB/sec
  Timing buffered disk reads:  514 MB in  3.01 seconds = 170.64 MB/sec

And here are the numbers without LVM, portioned identically:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda

/dev/sda:
  Timing cached reads:   2411 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1200.50 MB/sec
  Timing buffered disk reads:  512 MB in  3.01 seconds = 170.09 MB/sec

this is on a machine with 2 socket, 4 core - AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 285
and :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# lspci | grep RAID
0a:0e.0 RAID bus controller: Areca Technology Corp. ARC-1110 4-Port PCI-X to 
SATA RAID Controller

running with the bog standard centos-5 install out of the box.

I suppose it would be much more worthwhile to run a bonnie++ test, but ...

> Most of us know that ext2/ext3 is the filesystem that has to be used
> during installation. No doubt that the ext2/ext3 file system is very
> reliable but if you are seriously looking forward towards a faster and
> much more responsive system ext2/ext3 is a bad option.

*cough* not true *cough* :)

While it is nice to see someone take on an initiative of this nature, and 
please 
dont get me wrong on this - I am not being negative about your email or your 
post.

Regards,

-- 
Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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