Hi, My thoughts below:
On 8/17/07, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > curl was my > friend. And flaky is still there - how do you explain to newbies that > even though firefox has said that the download is complete - it isnt? When working with newbies, I always insist on outputs of commands or to 'cat' file contents. For example, output of lsmod, ifconfig, iwconfig, route for network debugging. The problem with GUI is that: 1. Its hard for us to see what they are doing. 2. Most GUIs that I have seen are made so transparent to the user, that they are not useful for any kinda debugging. Its a GUI! 3. Newbies are very bad in explaining what they do [1] with the GUI. On the other hand, one can always redirect file contents or command outputs to a file, and ask the newbies to send it across, which they are happy to do even though they may not understand the output. These outputs are detailed and really helps us in debugging. [1] Point Number 5, "During the Project". http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/wiki/ProjectGuidelines -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com _______________________________________________ ilugd mailinglist -- [email protected] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
