I am not very particular to linux security only.
But since this forum is about linux so, I thought of asking about
security in terms of linux.

So, Now please provide your suggestions on computer and network
security as a whole and not just linux.
What kind of activities are going in Delhi/NCR  with regard to
computer and network security ??

regards
abhi

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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:19:44 +0530
> From: V K Madhavan <[email protected]>
> Subject: [ilugd] Many thanks
> To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list <[email protected]>
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> Hello,
>
> Many thanks. At least this got me started. I shall try and respond to
> some of the individual suggestions without cluttering everyone's email
> boxes. A general concern:
>
> Increasingly, people like me who use computers as glorified typewriters
> and now search engines and replacements for the postal service - are
> going to convert to Linux and open source programmes. True, we could all
> get books and read them but then that is time consuming (and in my case
> just not possible - since I will have to wait till I next go to Delhi or
> Dehradun).
> When one searches the internet for information, there are solutions to
> probably all the minor problems I have encountered. For a novice, the
> 'language' itself becomes a barrier. Most people who are posting notes
> have been there and done that. They know the Linux language. In a few
> months, hopefully, I will too but the in the transition, there is a need
> to talk and interact with people who actually use this and mere access
> to the internet does not help. I am sure there must be many like me
> would have similar problems and are stuck and just don't to want to yell
> for help in a public space.
>
> While I sort this out with your assistance, I wonder if we can find a
> way of helping others make this transition seamlessly in the future.
>
> regards
> madhavan
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:35:32 +0530
> From: V K Madhavan <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [ilugd] Need help- new to linux
> To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list <[email protected]>
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> Dear Gora,
>
> There isn't yet an institutional involvement but it will emerge in a few
> months. I have migrated to Linux. There are at least another 20
> computers - mostly PC's in the organisation I work with and there are a
> few others who have expressed a desire to move from MS-Office to
> OpenOffice.
>
> Once, I get my minor glitches sorted out, it will be easier for me to
> promote open source material. It might be a good idea then to hold a
> workshop for my colleagues on (a) the Concept and relevance of Open
> Source (b) Open Office and (c) Using a Linux based operating system -
> and basic issues to be aware of.
>
> Shall keep you posted on this. I am the lab rat at the moment!
>
> madhavan
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:39:48 +0530
> From: V K Madhavan <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [ilugd] [ubuntu-in]  Need help- new to linux
> To: "Ramnarayan.K" <[email protected]>
> Cc: Ubuntu India Local Community <[email protected]>,
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> Dear Ram,
>
> Having so many people willing to help was great. To discover that my
> closest support  is actually located up in Munsiyari is remarkable. You
> just made my day!
>
> Was desperate to get out of Windows - a long story - and the only CD
> that I had access to was 8.04 LTS. No support for Linux available in
> Haldwani since the business of support  for small offices/homes also
> depends largely on MS systems.
>
> As of yesterday, my update manager is reminding me that there is an
> upgrade to 8.10 available. Should I back-up all my data and mail before
> I try this or can it be done without backing up?
>
> madhavan
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:57:07 +0530
> From: Abhishek Kumar <[email protected]>
> Subject: [ilugd] Linux Security
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hi list,
>
> I just wanted to know is there any program or forums in Delhi/NCR
> which is involved in discussing topics related to computer and network
> security, in particular, linux ?
>
> regards
> abhi
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:40:46 +0530
> From: Shakthi Kannan <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [ilugd] .ssh/known_hosts
> To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list <[email protected]>
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> Hi,
>
> --- On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Yashpal Nagar <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> | y...@yash-desktop:~$ ssh-keygen -h
> | ssh-keygen: illegal option -- h
> \--
>
> Yes, there is no -h option, but, you will get the list of available
> options, and you should see an entry for "-R hostname Remove host from
> known_hosts file" in the output.
>
> The openssh version that you are using is available here:
> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1.2
>
> The -R option is available in ssh-keygen.c file in usage(void) function.
>
> SK
>
> --
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:53:11 +0530
> From: Arun Khan <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [ilugd] [ubuntu-in]  Need help- new to linux
> To: [email protected],        "The Linux-Delhi mailing list"
>        <[email protected]>
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>
> On Thursday 19 Feb 2009, V K Madhavan wrote:
>>
>> Was desperate to get out of Windows - a long story - and the only CD
>> that I had access to was 8.04 LTS. No support for Linux available in
>> Haldwani since the business of support  for small offices/homes also
>> depends largely on MS systems.
>>
>> As of yesterday, my update manager is reminding me that there is an
>> upgrade to 8.10 available. Should I back-up all my data and mail
>> before I try this or can it be done without backing up?
>
> I would suggest to stick with LTS if you are deploying Ubuntu on several
> systems akin to a small enterprise.
>
> LTS in Ubuntu 8.04 LTS stands for Long Term Support. See Ubuntu's web
> site for details.  There are point releases eg. 8.04.1 to support newer
> hardware.  LTS is targeted towards enterprise deployments that need
> support for 3 or more years.
>
> IIRC, the other releases provide support for 24 months.
>
> --
> Arun Khan
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:14:30 +0530
> From: Gaurav Mishra <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [ilugd] Linux Security
> To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list <[email protected]>
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> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Abhishek Kumar <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I just wanted to know is there any program or forums in Delhi/NCR
>> which is involved in discussing topics related to computer and network
>> security, in particular, linux ?
>>
>> regards
>> abhi
>>
>
> There exists a linux-delhi forum , but we prefer to keep discussions
> onto the mailing lists
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:31:37 +0530
> From: Piyush Kumar <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [ilugd] Linux Security
> To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list <[email protected]>
> Message-ID:
>        <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi Abhi
>
> Not specifically linux but yes.. related to security we had good discussions
> @
> [email protected]
>
> Piyush
>
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Gaurav Mishra <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Abhishek Kumar <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi list,
>> >
>> > I just wanted to know is there any program or forums in Delhi/NCR
>> > which is involved in discussing topics related to computer and network
>> > security, in particular, linux ?
>> >
>> > regards
>> > abhi
>> >
>>
>> There exists a linux-delhi forum , but we prefer to keep discussions
>> onto the mailing lists
>>
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>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:32:29 +0000
> From: Yashpal Nagar <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [ilugd] .ssh/known_hosts
> To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list <[email protected]>
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> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Shakthi Kannan <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> --- On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Yashpal Nagar <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> | y...@yash-desktop:~$ ssh-keygen -h
>> | ssh-keygen: illegal option -- h
>> \--
>>
>> Yes, there is no -h option, but, you will get the list of available
>> options, and you should see an entry for "-R hostname Remove host from
>> known_hosts file" in the output.
>>
>> The openssh version that you are using is available here:
>> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1.2
>>
>> The -R option is available in ssh-keygen.c file in usage(void) function.
>>
>>
> By default known_hosts records the hostname/IP in hashed format. You can
> turn it off by putting the follwing into .ssh/config
>
> HashKnownHosts no
>
> I was under impression that one must need to have hostname/IP in known_hosts
> to use "ssh-keygen -R hostname/IP" , but I just tested it works! whether
> your hostname/IP is there or not in known_hosts , you can user ssh-keygen -R
> anyway...
>
> Excellent, thanks for your help!
>
>
> Regards
> Yash
>
>
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