On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Kapil Gupta <[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Fwd: [fsug-tvm] RMS Interview on Indian National >> channel >> DD9 on sunday (Abhishek Kumar) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 15:08:18 +0530 >> From: Anupam Jain <[email protected]> >> To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list <[email protected]> >> Subject: [ilugd] [offtopic] Need ideas and help. A website on the >> political situation in India. >> Message-ID: >> <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Everyone, >> >> This may not be completely off-topic - true freedom depends on individuals >> making well informed decisions. >> >> I have decided to start a website which will provide a sort of score card >> for all political parties and political individuals based on an objective >> and fact based criteria. Amongst other things I plan to document and >> permanently store all statements/decisions/actions by public figures. I >> feel >> it's needed and has the potential to provide a deterrent to political >> parties from relying on the fickle memories of the Indian public. >> >> Of course, everything including the source code will be either under a >> Free >> software license or in public domain. >> >> The primary goal is to make the database as comprehensive as possible >> while >> retaining objectivity and balanced opinions. I feel (perhaps somewhat >> counter-intuitively) that both these aims can be achieved by making it >> completely open, perhaps by ensuring that a structure of checks and >> balances >> operates automatically, pushing good opinions to the top (something like >> stackoverflow?). >> >> So I'm looking for ideas and collaborators on how to do all this - >> >> 1. Create a permanent data format for storage and retrieval of event >> details including actions and intentions of individuals and the context >> surrounding them. >> 2. An objective and automatic criteria for scoring each individual based >> on their history. >> 3. A system that enables everyone to participate easily and in a >> structured fashion. >> 4. A system of checks and balances that ensures that only the best >> opinions are the most visible ones, while still giving non-mainstream >> opinions a chance to become popular. >> 5. A convenient user interface that presents all the information in the >> easiest way possible (Natural language search anyone?). >> >> I apologise if I seem incoherent and/or generic. I don't have any idea of >> what such a system could look like. Infact I just came up with this "idea" >> after seeing all that has been happening in our "democratic" country >> today. >> We have become desensitised and forgetful, and not on purpose. I believe >> the >> situation can be improved by providing the public with enough context to >> make better decisions. >> >> -- Anupam >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 15:48:31 +0530 >> From: sanjeev mishra <[email protected]> >> To: Anupam Jain <[email protected]> >> Cc: The Linux-Delhi mailing list <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [ilugd] [offtopic] Need ideas and help. A website on the >> political situation in India. >> Message-ID: >> <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Hi Anupam, >> >> I'm agree with your idea to develop such type of website which will show >> the >> real picture of the todays political parties and political individuals. >> >> Also, I appreciate you decision about the Open Source uses on this >> project. >> It's be great if you please jot down your understanding on this project in >> a >> document for further discussion. >> >> Let's start this. >> >> Thank you, >> Sanjeev >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Anupam Jain <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Everyone, >> > >> > This may not be completely off-topic - true freedom depends on >> individuals >> > making well informed decisions. >> > >> > I have decided to start a website which will provide a sort of score >> card >> > for all political parties and political individuals based on an >> objective >> > and fact based criteria. Amongst other things I plan to document and >> > permanently store all statements/decisions/actions by public figures. I >> > feel >> > it's needed and has the potential to provide a deterrent to political >> > parties from relying on the fickle memories of the Indian public. >> > >> > Of course, everything including the source code will be either under a >> Free >> > software license or in public domain. >> > >> > The primary goal is to make the database as comprehensive as possible >> while >> > retaining objectivity and balanced opinions. I feel (perhaps somewhat >> > counter-intuitively) that both these aims can be achieved by making it >> > completely open, perhaps by ensuring that a structure of checks and >> > balances >> > operates automatically, pushing good opinions to the top (something like >> > stackoverflow?). >> > >> > So I'm looking for ideas and collaborators on how to do all this - >> > >> > 1. Create a permanent data format for storage and retrieval of event >> > details including actions and intentions of individuals and the >> context >> > surrounding them. >> > 2. An objective and automatic criteria for scoring each individual >> based >> > on their history. >> > 3. A system that enables everyone to participate easily and in a >> > structured fashion. >> > 4. A system of checks and balances that ensures that only the best >> > opinions are the most visible ones, while still giving non-mainstream >> > opinions a chance to become popular. >> > 5. A convenient user interface that presents all the information in >> the >> > easiest way possible (Natural language search anyone?). >> > >> > I apologise if I seem incoherent and/or generic. I don't have any idea >> of >> > what such a system could look like. Infact I just came up with this >> "idea" >> > after seeing all that has been happening in our "democratic" country >> today. >> > We have become desensitised and forgetful, and not on purpose. I believe >> > the >> > situation can be improved by providing the public with enough context to >> > make better decisions. >> > >> > -- Anupam >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Ilugd mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> Sanjeev >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 16:11:27 +0530 >> From: Rockey Killer <[email protected]> >> To: sanjeev mishra <[email protected]> >> Cc: The Linux-Delhi mailing list <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [ilugd] [offtopic] Need ideas and help. A website on the >> political situation in India. >> Message-ID: >> <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Hi Anupam, >> >> Your Idea is good and new, >> However only thing bothering me is the controversies that may rise on >> Web by this kind of system. (Just my first thought) >> >> I really appreciate your open source thing and count me in for >> development phase. >> I want to be part of it (my request) >> >> However, proper documentation is required for initial phase and proper >> structure is required >> this kind of project will require a group meet to make things >> documented >> (my advice) >> >> Cheers, >> Rockey >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 19:48:14 +0530 >> From: Abhishek Kumar <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> >> Cc: [email protected], [email protected], >> [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [ilugd] Fwd: [fsug-tvm] RMS Interview on Indian National >> channel DD9 on sunday >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" >> >> >> violent Gandhi :) >> >> >> >> >> >> > Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 23:54:37 +0530 >> > From: [email protected] >> > To: [email protected] >> > CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [ilugd] Fwd: [fsug-tvm] RMS Interview on Indian National >> channel DD9 on sunday >> > >> > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Nishant Prakash Kashyap < >> > [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > who is RMS ? >> > > >> > > OMG --- you do not know about RMS. >> > You must know the greatest persons in digital industry. He is Mahatma >> > Gandhi of Software World. >> > >> > -- >> >> Sorry for mailing again, i think i have sent it to wrong thread. > > Idea is nice one may start and i just suppose it would be better while > going with *mediawiki*. > i thought of similar kind of site and i am working on it. but this site is > not restricted to political parties. This is like complaint/suggestion > register to any public entity. the public entity may be a school, college > principal, vidhayak, road, manifesto, post master, some legislative bill, > public comapny, NGO etc. ie anything that in anyway affects our people's > life at large. > > this must have big access level on the priority thats one should be able to > report by phone, sms, site and anyother communication device that has much > reachability to rural india. > > also i think it must be necessarily like wikipedia. and we need registered > volunteers, that may register such public entities and then public access > that can put views almost about anything and in any > form(video/audio/pics/text..). > > i think i am overwhelmed with the idea, so i should stop here. > > -- > Regards > Kapil > ~ > -- Regards Kapil ~ http://email-stories.blogspot.com http://colosseum-jnu.blogspot.com/ http://www.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=13205197198195306575 _______________________________________________ Ilugd mailing list [email protected] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
