I'll bite.  ;)

> AFAIK, a lot of savvy users continue to use Netscape 4.7.8 and 9 and
> stay away from the 6 versions.

There have been a lot of complaints since the release about 6 being unresponsive or 
otherwise unpleasant.  I'm not going to offer my opinions on 6 either way, since I 
haven't 
used it extensively, but the bottom line is that NS4 doesn't offer any advantage 
except familiarity.  It's the slowest, least standards-compliant, most bug-ridden 
browser out 
there.  It's not that it's bad- it's not (I definitely spent a fair bit of bandwidth 
championing it over the version 3 browsers)- it's just that everything else is better.

<http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/reference/browser_chart/index_mac.html>

Note that support for stylesheets and dHTML should really be "S"- it's buggy & 
dependent on javascript settings.  

> Huh? "doing the developer a favor"?? How about website builders do
> themselves and *us* a favour by making their pages "viewable (fast) in
> any (reasonable) browser"?

1.  Developing a backwards-compatible site takes time, effort and money.  On a cable 
modem, installing a new browser is free and takes less than 15 minutes.
2.  "Fast" = small file sizes.  When a developer has to redirect your older browser, 
or add in detection routines, or whatever, it increases the time it takes to get to 
your 
information.
3.  Limited CSS support means that if a developer wants to support Netscape 4 users, 
she's often forced to rely on tables for layout- which truly hurts accessibility for 
folks 
using browsers like Lynx, aural browsers, cellphones, etc- folks who may not have a 
browser choice- and noncompliance with standards will cause enough issues with new 
browsers to eventually force a redesign, as NS4 machines slowly die out (which is what 
happened with NS3).
4.  I'm all for "Viewable in any browser." But it's different from "a good experience 
in any browser."  It means that a developer can't take advantage of many of the more 
exciting technological developments.  For example, IIRC Netscape 4 shipped with Flash 
4 player.  The current version is Flash Player 6.  Developers currently have the 
option to:
- create Flash documents limited by the old technology.
- create new Flash documents with static, noninteractive .gifs (because .png support 
is limited, too) for older browsers, creating a diluted experience for the user (a 
popular 
choice, and the one I alluded to in my last post).
- encourage users to take the minute and a half to download the new, free plugin.
Which option ultimately gives both developer and user the most feature-rich, dynamic 
experience possible?

Black & white TV was just fine.  I remember liking the sort of "clunk" of changing 
channels.  But if NBC had said, "we want you to have the richest viewing experience 
possible, and we're sick of limiting ourselves, so we'll trade your BW set for a color 
one with remote- free,"  I sure would have accepted.  But what if I didn't?  If it was 
a 
standing offer- I could get my free color set at any time, and if every new television 
made was color as well, it would be pretty hard to complain to people about how 
characters in NBC shows had stopped wearing high-contrast clothes.

No more public posts from me on this- not on this list, anyway.  :)  

-BEN

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