It has been a long time but I thought somebody might
like a follow-up.    I found a monster hard drive at
the local superstore for near half-price after rebate.
 I finally got up the courage to download Mac the
Ripper and - Wowee - we are happily burning DVD's to
our hard drive!  The program downloaded with no
hitches and even our first burning effort was 100%
pain-free and successful.  Copying the source DVD is
literally a one button operation: launch Mac the
Ripper and press the green "Go" button.  That's it. 
We have copied a half-dozen DVD's over a four-week
period so I think it is safe to say that Mac the
Ripper is highly recommended.  

Many thanks, was it Badger(?), for the recommendation.

Best, J
--- Badger Clan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, 9 Oct 2004, Charles Martin wrote:
> 
> > Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 05:01:28 -0400
> > From: Charles Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: iMac List <[email protected]>
> > To: iMac List <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: Playing DVD's without the Disk
> >
> > > From: Marcin Wichary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Hmmmm... I was under the impression that DVDs
> are encrypted and it's
> > > not possible to do so? (it did not work on a PC,
> I never tried it on a
> > > Macintosh) On my Powerbook, I used the program
> called DVDBackup
> > > (version 1.3)... but of course it's debatable if
> what I did was
> > > actually legal.
> >
> > If it's your DVD that you paid for, and you're
> making the backup for
> > convenience/personal use reasons, I can't see
> anything illegal about
> > it, but of course I'm not a lawyer.
> >
> > _Chas_
> >
> Most DVD's do have encryption and region settings to
> deter the legitimate
> copying of your DVD. It's still legal to do so,
> (unless Senator Hatch of
> Utah gets his wish). What I do to watch a movie on
> my laptop I use one of
> two programs to rip with to my hard drive on my
> eMac. Each works a little
> differently to get the desired results.
> 
> 1. Mac the Ripper
> http://www.wormintheapple.gr/macdvd/mtr.html
>       MacTheRipper: A DVD extractor for Mac OS X
> 
> MacTheRipper is a freeware DVD ripper (extractor)
> for Mac OS X. It is
> dependent upon the open-sourced GPL libdvdread and
> libdvdcss libraries. We
> also use the GPL 'tocgen' program in certain modes,
> which is a part of the
> 'dvdauthor' project. This product is made to backup
> DVDs you have legally
> purchased for personal use.
> 
> That being said, MacTheRipper removes CSS
> encryption, Macrovision
> protection, and sets the disc's region code to '0'
> for region-free by
> default, and is capable of removing RCE region
> protection as well, making
> an unrestricted copy of any DVD movie you own. It
> doesn't rely on the DVD
> drive to get the CSS decryption keys, so that means
> that you do not need
> to play the DVD with DVD Player in order to rip it
> to your hard drive
> unprotected. MTR is also capable of removing UOPs,
> or User Operation
> Prohibitions, which are the settings that prevent
> you from skipping or
> fast-forwarding certain parts of DVDs, such as FBI
> warnings, previews,
> logos, intros, etc.
> (Especially like being able to get rid of those must
> see previews.)
> 
> 2. DVD2oneX
> http://www.dvd2one.com/index.php
> From the creator of Remote Selector comes a brand
> new product, the
> ultimate DVD processing tool. With this tool you can
> make movie-only and
> full disk copies for personal use on a single
> DVD-Recordable.
> 
>     * World's fastest video compression engine.
> Process a movie to fit on
> a single recordable in a matter of 15 to 30 minutes
> (depending on the
> speed of your computer).
>     * Makes movies-only copies. Why waste space and
> image quality on
> unnecessary intros, menus and language tracks?
>     * Makes also full disk copies. For those who
> want to keep those fancy
> menus and intros.
>     * Powerful join mode. Useful for putting
> multiple episodes of a (tv)
> series or joining both sides of a flipper on 1 disk.
>     * Written from scratch, it's not based on any
> old code, libraries or
> existing opensource projects.
>     * Time critical parts written in assembly, for
> the highest possible
> speed.
>     * Burn the movie with your favorite recording
> software!
>     * Both PC Windows and Mac OS-X versions
> available.
> 
> Several points to consider. Any conversion on your
> current hardware may
> take a verrrrry long time. I'm sure somebody on the
> list knows for sure,
> but isn't 600mz really as low a speed you can play
> and record video?
> 
> Reasons to backup your DVD's and CD's.
> 1. Ever bought a six disk set for $150.00 and have
> your dog chew up disk
> one?
> 2. Loaned your favorite DVD to your buddy, only to
> have it returned with a
> cigarette burn dead in the center?
> 3. No matter what you think the shelf life of DVD or
> CD is under 20 yrs.
> Most of my early CD's are showing oxidation.
> 4. How many time in your lifetime are you suppose to
> buy the same movie?
> I've actually got 16mm, Beta, VHS and DVD of the
> same flick. I feel fully
> invested.
> 
> Chris Dailey
> Eskimo North
> Ministry of Propaganda
> Dept: Social Engineering
> 
> "When we achieve worldwide success, I think we shall
> use gold for building
> public lavatories."
> Vladimir Ilyich Lenin


                
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