WHERE ARE THE NANNIES!!!
On Nov 12, 2009, at 6:17 PM, Dennis Faulkner wrote:

> Why the atheist insult to Simon? That seems very rude! Personally,  
> I feel middle of the road on "religion" - on one side, I used to go  
> to a church called Harvest Temple, in Lakeside, California. I have  
> very fond memories of this, the church was colorful, the first  
> place I felt really loved and accepted. Earlier growing up, we  
> belonged to the Methodist church, but my dad was very abusive, and  
> it seemed very strange for him to be in that church, and to behave  
> that way. This of course was not a "methodist" problem, but seemed  
> strange to me as a child. Flash forward today - I read now  
> complaints about perhaps our former pastor being involved in  
> preaching the financial blessings bit to people who can't afford to  
> give money in very poor countries - I find myself wondering if he  
> really believes this will help these people, or is it a scam?  
> Religion itself can be very scary - families are often torn apart!  
> I know of a young gay guy I knew growing up who actually changed  
> his name, because he hated the young man he was growing up, he did  
> not feel accepted in any way by his religious group, nor by his  
> family. People have committed suicide because they did not feel  
> they were o.k. by their religious upbringing. Be careful - religion  
> is not all good - it can be very evil. I am considering going back  
> to another state where my distant relatives are, until now I have  
> lived 2000 miles away. It is amazing how the talk will go to fear  
> of "going to hell" or "burning forever". It is also troublesome  
> when you try to have a honest discussion about religion and your  
> hand is gently slapped because you are talking about "the sacred  
> cow". Yet, I really don't see a peace in my older relatives who are  
> approaching the end of their lives, they seem scared. An atheist is  
> not necessarily someone who has lost all faith, they don't always  
> dress all in black, with their heads hanging down saying the end is  
> near - I find myself religious in a sense - I found out a friend  
> died young hiking on a trail - I find myself thinking he existed  
> before he was born, and after he died - if he died. However, I find  
> myself thinking also that when we find out what really happens  
> after death, it may very well shatter our little preconcieved  
> notions about what all this is about. Dennis On Wednesday, November  
> 11, 2009, at 08:22PM, "Sandy" <[email protected]> wrote: >
> Simon:  Why are you leaving?  Still an atheist?  Or, are you  
> leaving that too?  Sandy
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Simon Royal <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: Simon Royal <[email protected]>
> Subject: Goodbye...
> To: "iMac Group" <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 3:09 PM
>
>
> Hi.
>
> I have enjoyed being on this group and if my circumstances change then
> I shall join again, but for now, goodbye.
>
> Simon
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