kurt piepenburg wrote:
I have a trayloader iMac G3 (333 mhz with 384 MB RAM) running OS 9.2.2 that I
can use to access the internet via a crossover cable strung between it and a
grape slot load iMac G3 running OS X Tiger. I have Internet Sharing enabled on
the Grape Tiger G3, and allow its Airport connection to my DSL router to be
shared over machines connected via Ethernet. So, on the tray load I can run
iCab or early Mozilla and surf the web over this shared Airport connection.
I have yet another G3, a slot-load Tangerine DV model also running OS 9.2.2
with Airport connection to a DSL router, that I'd like to replace the Grape
Tiger with and then share the wireless internet connection with the trayloader
. However, I can't figure out how to enable Internet Sharing on the Tangerine
slot loader in the OS 9 control panels. Maybe it wasn't an available option in
OS 9?
This might not be what you need... I'm not familiar at all with
Airport... but you might find something here that helps:
I went through 'how-to' article 2 years ago when I finally got an OS X machine. I
followed this article carefully and finally got things working. I had Panther on
the G4 Quicksilver desktop I had just purchased and things went both ways on my
network. However, once I installed Tiger, all of a sudden I wasn't able to access
my Mac OS 8.6 machine from my G4 (it had something to do with AppleTalk in Tiger
if I remember correctly). I couldn't figure things out at first. I still can't
access the 8.6 machine from the OSX machines BUT I can access the OSX machines
FROM the old 8.6 machine (Chooser>AppleShare). Btw, I've never had any luck
with crossover cables... and people recommend staying away from them... I have a
router for my dsl connection
Go here for this article if you want screenshots
http://homepage.mac.com/car1son/os9x_net_n_filesharing.html
OS 9 / OS X.3 File Sharing
This is a quick, terse walkthrough of screenshots taken under OS X
10.3.3 Panther and OS 9.2.2 to set them up for mutual file sharing using
a crossover cable. (This procedure appears almost exactly the same for
Jaguar(10.2) and Tiger(10.4) or OS 8.5 and OS 8.6 systems. The system
preferences / control panels used are almost identical, and differences
seem cosmetic.) If you prefer to see the screenshots for OS X 10.2
Jaguar instead, see this OS X 10.2 walkthru.
If you already have successfully set up a home network with a router or
hub, you can use these instructions for an existing network instead.
Another excellent resource is to simply type "file sharing" into OS X's
Mac help (Finder's Help menu.)
Pertinent AppleCare KnowledgeBase articles
* Apple KBase: OS9 Networks
* Apple KBase: OSX 10.2 Networks
* Apple KBase: Small Networks
* Designing your Airport Network.
OS 9 / OS X File Sharing
You will need to connect the two Macs together in a network. A direct
Mac-to-Mac ethernet cable, a hub, switch, or router can be used, though
this page does not assume a router or concurrent Internet connection.
Here's an Apple KBase article that covers tha basics and has links to
both OS X and OS 9 info. (If you are running a cable directly between
two Macs, see this article to see if a cross-over cable is necessary for
your Mac model. New Macs with 100BaseT ethernet have autosense that can
work with either a straight-through or a cross-over cable. Older 10baseT
Ethernet Macs will need a crossover cable.)
If this is a temporary set-up and you change your existing network
settings, remember to make a note of what the old settings were so you
can restore them when you are done. With OS X you may wan to make a new
Network Location for these temporary settings to it's easy to go back to
the current settings.
Try this process on the OSX system:
* In System Preferences' Network pane:
Select System Preferences / Network pane.
Set the "Show" pull-down to "Network Port Configurations"
Uncheck Irda is it's present.
Select Built-in Ethernet and click and drag it up to the top of the list
(the order determines which port gets preference.) It should be checked.
* Set the Show pull-down to "Built-in Ethernet"
Click the TCP/IP tab.
Set the "Configure:" pull-down to "Manually". (If "manually isn't an
option, go to the PPPoE tab and Uncheck the "Connect using PPPoE box.")
Enter an IP address. This should match the OS 9 system's subnet or your
Router's subnet, if either of those are assigned. It also must be
different from the IP Address you have/will assign to all other
computers you are connecting to your home network. If you've never
picked one and aren't going to use this for an ethernet connection,
borrow mine: 192.168.1.20 . (If you have more than one system, use other
addresses with the same first 3 numbers, e.g. 192.168.1.21,
192.1168.1.22...)
Set Subnet Mask to 255.255.255.0.
(Leave Router and DNS info blank if you don't have an internet connection.)
(your Location will probably be "Automatic".)
Click Apply.
* Click to the Appletalk tab. Check "Make Appletalk Active". (This
enables file-sharing with older Mac OS 8-based system; you don't need to
do this if all your systems are OS X.)
Click Apply.
* "Show all" System Preferences and pick the Sharing pane.
Click on "Personal File Sharing." Click Start.
Your computer's name will be displayed instead of mine.
* (This step is only necessesary in OS X 10.3 Panther and 10.4 Tiger
if you are going to use it with a OS 8.6 or previous version of MacOS;)
Launch Directory Access application from the Utilities folder. Go to the
Services tab. If the padlock icon at the bottom of the screen is locked,
unlock it and provide your administrator password. Then check the
Appletalk box to make it active. (This enables file-sharing with older
Mac OS 8-based system; you don't need to do this if all your systems are
OS X OS 9.)
Click Apply.
On the OS 9 system:
(This procedure appears almost exactly the same for OS 8.5 and OS 8.6
systems.)
* Use the TCP/IP Control Panel. Set user Mode to Administrative if
not already unlocked.
On Connect via: pull-down select "Built-Ethernet".
On Configure: pull-down select "Manually"
For IP Address, enter what you use. If you haven't picked one
previously, borrow mine: 192.168.1.22.
Set Subnet mask to 255.255.255.0. Router and name server can stay blank.
, but with DNS info blank. Close and click Save.
* Open Appletalk control panel.
On Connect-via pull-down choose Ethernet built-in.
Close and save.
* Open FileSharing control panel.
If you don't have a name, password, or computer name, make some up.
Click "Start".
* In Finder, select your disk drive icon, then "Get Info..." from the
File menu.
Set the Show: pull-down to Sharing.
Check the "Share this item and its contents" box.
Your Hard disk name will show inseat of my default "Macintosh HD"
Close
On the OS 9 system:
* Select Chooser, click AppleShare, wait a few seconds.
(Your OS X system name will appear instead of mine.) The name of your OS
X system should appear. Double-click it.
If it doesn't appear, you can still look up the IP address of the OS X
system and click the "Server IP Address..." button to access it.)
Use your OS X short user name and password, as registered on the OS X
system, to log in.
The shared OS X disks/folders should display. Click to mount.
On the OS X system:
Note: OS X 10.4 Tiger can't mount a disk from an OS 8.6 system (10.4
doesn't include AFP-over-Ethernet, while OS 8.6 doesn't support
AP-over-IP as a server.) If networking 10.4 Tiger Mac to an OS 8.6 Mac,
use the OS 8.6 Chooser to access the OS X Tiger's files, can perform
your transfers from there.)
* In the Finder, select the Network from the Go menu (or the Network
icon in a Finder window pane.) The server should appear, and you can
just double-click it:
* You'll be asked for a user name and password. Use the Name and
Password you set on the OS 9 system (in its FileSharing control panel)
to log in:
A list of the mountable disks should appear. Pick the one you want and
click OK.
Your OS 9 system's disk should mount on OS X's Finder desktop.
Note: Sometimes, my OS 8.6 server doesn't show up in the Network view,
so I mount it the hard way:
* In Finder select "Connect to Server..." from the Go menu.
* In the dialog that appears, I can enter the string "afp:/ipaddress"
for an OS 9 or OS X server:
You need to know the IP address of the other OS X or OS 9 system. If you
assigned it a static (Manual) IP address, this is easy. If you didn't
open the OS 9 TCP/IP control panel to view the current IP address, or
use the OS X Network system preference's TCP/IP panel to view the
current IP address.
* To connect to an OS 8.5 or OS 8.6 system, I enter the string
"afp:/at/OS8MacName:*"
The OS 8.5 and OS 8.6 systems used AppleTalk-over-Ethernet for their
file server, so they don't use the IP address for file sharing services.
You need to knwo the name of the OS 8.6 Mac to connect this way. It's
the "Computer Name:" in the OS 8.6 File Sharing control panel.
You should be prompted for a user name and password, as with OS 9 (enter
a name and password set up on the OS 8.6 system's File Sharing control
panel.)
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