Hi, Michael.

Thank you very much for the answer.

I have developed nonlinear filtering algorithms and implemented them as
plugins, taking one of the freely available plugins described in the
package ImageJ as a prototype. I want to compare the filter de-noising
efficiency for some of the test 2D gray-scale images. But I can only
calculate the difference between the test and filtered images using Image
Calculator, and to obtain the total mean value (Analyze - Measure). Is it
possible to obtain the filter efficiency estimation, for example, by means
of “Peak Signal-to-Noise Ratio”, using ImageJ program?

Yours  sincerely,    Nataliya

вт, 25 бер. 2025 р. о 13:30 Michael Schmid <[email protected]> пише:

> Hi Nataliya,
>
> both, Median and Median 3D use a circular support (circular Kernel).
> I noticed that Median 3D (and the other 3D filters) use a slightly
> different definition of the radius.
> For the 3D filters, sometimes one needs to add a small number like 0.5
> to the radius of the 2D filters.
> For a 2D image (no stack), Median 3D with radius=2.5 in x&y and the
> "usual" (2D) Median with radius=2 do exactly the same (except near the
> edges, see below).
> At some radius values. the behavior is the same for the 2D and 3D
> filters (e.g. radius=10.5 and 14.5), so there is no simple rule.
> I think that eventually the 3D filters should be modified to use the
> same definition of the radius as the 2D filters, the one also used for
> Process>Filters>Show circular masks.
>
> The remaining difference is the handling of the edge pixels.
> The 3D filters consider the out-of image pixels as nonexistent. Thus,
> when calculating the median near the edge, the 3D median uses fewer
> pixels. The 2D filters (the "usual" Median, Mean, etc.) assume that the
> out-of-image pixels are the same as the nearest edge pixel, and the
> mean, median, etc. is always calculated over the same number of pixels
> (except for float images with NaN = Not a Number).
> The latter convention (assuming repeated edge pixels) is the usual
> convention in ImageJ, also for Gaussian Blur, and the Process>Binary
> functions.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Michael
> ________________________________________________________________
>
>
> On 22.03.25 12:32, Наталія Тулякова wrote:
> > Dear colleagues.
> > I am interested in filtering 2D images. The ImageJ program has two median
> > filters in the "Process-Filters" menu item. I have not found any
> > documentation explaining how "Median 3D" works. Median 3D provides better
> > results than Median. What is the difference between them for 2D image
> > processing? Does "Median 3D" use a square window while "Median" uses a
> > circular window?
> >
> > With best regards,    Nataliya
> >
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