IPSwitch needs to simply dump their web-server.  Why re-invent the wheel,
build some scripts for ASP or Coldfusion (or both) and release it with
IMail.  That was people can do whatever they want and adapt the changes
IPSwitch makes in the future.  I find it odd that Microsoft makes a pretty
stable web-server (IIS) and they go and create their own for just a few
pages.  Is this just my view or does anyone else agree?

-Mark McDonald
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Calhoun [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 6:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Customized Webmail Interface Available


good show bruce...

put me on the list


-John


----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 8:04 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Customized Webmail Interface Available


> I am aware of that. Humm oh well. Here is a question then? How many people
> would be interested in a free cold fusion driven email interface for
Imail.
> All aspects can be changed. Var.'s will now be inside cold fusion and it
> will sit over top the Imail web interface which can be ran on a non
standard
> port. There are some drawbacks to this as in the real web interface can
not
> be used, BUT it will allow all the same stuff and you can change the
entire
> look of the system. If i get more than 10 people who say yes then i will
> release on the allaire site this product. Only thing is that it only works
> with cold fusion. I worked on 2 site's templates and found that the web
> email interface to just not be very good looking. Its drove me nuts and a
> while back i saw a bunch of people in here who wanted to help each other
out
> with free site templates. I was wanting to contribute to this but now it
> seems allot of people are wanting money for it. I understand that some
> people may have made the layouts to sell, i have no problem with that at
> all. But 50$ is allot more of a good price for the few files that there
are
> in there and its mostly a template issue. Not that you have to totally
> re-design the entire page each time you do it. In this i was not meaning
to
> degrade, take a shot at anyone or anyone else. I think Kevin's pages are
> very very well done. He did a good job, I even went there before i wrote
my
> email, but the 100$ price tag was a bit to take on considering the fact
that
> you can get a page designed dirt cheap anymore. Who knows. You all are
> pretty pissed i can see and i understand. Also the 5$ was not ment to be a
> 5$ was ment to be a 50$.  Sometimes its allot better in the end to work
with
> people and help each other out than it is to fight and try to out do each
> other. As you may have noticed i did respond to that after i had noticed
the
> mistake saying sorry. Was truly not ment to offend them. Here is how the
> system is currently working...
>
> Imail Web system is running on port 1234
> Cold fusion gets a page request from a user.  Cold fusion hits the imail
> server and logs the user in. It also gets the user# and variable from url
>
> UserSessionId = Xafa99fcf999ac89c9e98645da7ac
> PageUserId = 46728
>
> All other vars are also put into the server. This in turn lets you put
what
> ever you want on any page. Also i have added a check that will bring up
what
> has access to. Page wise..
>
> Aka
>
> Addressbook holds true/false    true they have access to that option,
False
> they do not.
>
> It still has alot of bugs in it and requires that you run a special
template
> that i created for this, Other wise it will not function.
>
>
> Also it has taken me a few weeks to develop this but i was doing it for
> another site anyway and im getting paid to do the site, not to design a
> email interface so i feel ive been paid in one way or another and if it
> makes someone else's life easier then im happy, cause not all web
developers
> and isp's have cash to toss out a window.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gary Cook [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 6:15 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Customized Webmail Interface Available
> >
> > Bruce, Bruce, Bruce.
> >
> > I challenge you to build a custom Web interface in $5.00 worth of time.
> > No,
> > how about you try to do it in $95.00 worth of time. Don't bother trying;
> > it
> > can't be done. You may charge 25 cents an hour for your work, but most
of
> > us
> > charge $100.00 an hour and up.
> >
> > The fact is, many Imail customers will not customize the Web interface
> > because it is such a time consuming task, if it's going to look good and
> > work right. When you get your interface customized, will it be for sale?
> > Will it cost $5.00? How much will it really be worth?
> >
> > Gary Cook
> >
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