Agreed.  Kevin has  a lot of ground to make up and it won't be easy.
Ipswitch has done a number on us in the past year.

Kevin is approaching this very well.  He is answering questions and taking
our thought and concerns into account.  I will wait to pass complete
judgment until I see the new product.  If it is what he promises - great.
If it is not, I have just finished demo'ing SmarterMail and purchase
SmarterStats.  I love them both.  And with Declude on board, they are a
force to be reckoned with.

Kevin I am behind you and I hope you guys pull this off.

Travis

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 5:04 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] [UPDATE] - IMail 2006 WebMail Mac Support...
> 
> Great job of getting involved and listening to user concerns, Kevin!
> You're
> most likely winning customers back at every step.
> 
> Darin.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Gillis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:50 PM
> Subject: [IMail Forum] [UPDATE] - IMail 2006 WebMail Mac Support...
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> So after taking in all the feedback from the forum, we sat down in R&D to
> investigate further and we believe we will be able to provide Firefox
> support on the Mac starting in a few weeks when IMail 2006 ships.  Our
> first
> choice was Safari (given it ships with OS X) but using the same code that
> works fine on FF Mac/Win and IE Win does not render nicely on Safari.
> 
> We appreciate all the feedback - keep it coming.
> 
> bye for now,
> 
> kg
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Schaible
> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:14 AM
> To: Darin Cox
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 WebMail w/o Mac
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have to clarify my statement "First of all, I can not understand, how a
> web programmer is able to create html/css/dhmtl/js-code that is not
> mac-compatible".
> 
> We do lot of web design stuff and we create websites without any problems
> to
> run with mac's. I'm quite familiar with the problems that can occur.
> 
> This means, a designer must take care, that a modern product runs on a mac
> using up-to-date browsers. I agree, that an old IE 4.x on OS9 is hardly to
> support and not an issue.
> 
> Ipswicth should gives us a clear statemtent, if the WebMail runs on eg.
> Safari, Opera, on a tupperware pc, ähhm mac.
> 
> ============================================
> Am Samstag, 5. November 2005 um 14:43 schrieben Sie:
> 
> >>First of all, I can not understand, how a web programmer is able to
> create
> > html/css/dhmtl/js-code that is not mac-compatible.
> 
> > Because the browser rendering engines are significantly different.
> While
> > Safari is bsed on Mozilla and will most likely work, IE for Mac is
> _very_
> > different from IE for Windows...especially in CSS layouts.  Not having a
> > Mac, I've found it extremely difficult to design for Mac audiences using
> > newer layout methods, and have generally had to revert to table layouts
> to
> > avoid CSS inconsistencies that would cause rendering on IE for Mac to
> fail
> > miserably.... but again Safari may work fine.
> 
> >> Secondly, our isp customers and imail customers are living in a mixed
> > world. This means: wintel's and mac's.
> 
> > Yes, but most development shops are Windows-only based.  I've run into
> > several third party web apps that could not tell me whether their
> products
> > worked on a Mac because they didn't have equipment to develop or test
> with.
> 
> > We'll be buying a Mac sometime soon to better test web apps for that
> > audience.
> 
> >> Today I sold a IMail subscription to an college having 4000 accounts,
> > containing a few hundreds IMac's. Do I run in troubles now?
> 
> > See if it doesn't work fine in Safari.
> 
> > Darin.
> 
> 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Martin Schaible" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "IMail Forum" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 8:15 PM
> > Subject: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 WebMail w/o Mac
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> 
> > Did i understand the postings correctly, that the new webmail of IMail
> 2006
> > does not work on Mac's? I really hope, this is wrong.
> 
> > First of all, i can not understand, how a web programmer is able to
> create
> > html/css/dhmtl/js-code that is not mac-compatible.
> 
> > Secondly, our isp customers and imail customers are living in a mixed
> world.
> > This means: wintel's and mac's.
> 
> > Without mac support, the customers won't move to imail 2006 at all.
> 
> > Today i sold a imal subscription to an college having 4000 accounts,
> > containing a few hundreds IMac's. Do i run in troubles now?
> 
> > If this is really true, i would re-scedule the release date of Imail
> until
> > this issue is solved.
> 
> > Would anybody from ipswitch confirm this issue, or better say: "It's a
> nasty
> > halloween joke"??
> 
> 
> 
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