On 12/20/05, Bill Puetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What concerned me was the author's odd perspective on business.  I instantly
> imagined that a lot of initial contacts from prospective customers would be
> blocked, and I could never afford that.  Since you have experience with
> ASSP, am I off-base, or is this a real risk?

I agree that that passage in the manual is daft.  Fortunately I don't
read manuals :-).  You have to train ASSP.  Its a Bayesian system that
has an ingeniusly simple (as in "why doesn't everyone do it like
that") automatic whitelist builder, but it has quite a bit more than
that.  Your first couple of weeks will be miserable as you sort thru
the ham/spam that has been caught and stored.

Once you are done with the training process I have found ASSP to be
absolutely maintenance free.  Forever.  If it weren't for the fact I
go in and delete old logs, and upgrade it every so often, I wouldn't
even know its running.  And the FP rate on it is essentially zero (I
am a small ISP and customers *scream* bloody murder if they miss their
[whatever] mailing.

I have been running ASSP for about two years.  I was a Declude Pro
user and, while I loved Declude its rules-based engine just required
too much maintenance to keep it in front of the crest of the spam
wave.  I'm a bit anal when it comes to anti-spam performance so
perhaps I worked at it harder than some, but going from an hour every
day or two to zero spam and zero maintenance works for me.

The bad part about the tool is it is languishing.  The original
developer quit the project.  Two others took it up, released a couple
of upgrades and seem to have left as well.  v1.12 -- which is a
significant upgrade -- was undertaken by what is apparently an
unofficial developer who is now official in that he's able to post to
the CVS for the project.

Thankfully though, ASSP is a mature product that doesn't need a whole
lot of tweaking.  Although I must say the greylisting feature (called
'delaying' to avoid confusion with another same-name feature within
the product) has been the single biggest body-slam to spam I've seen
since ASSP went into use here.

Lastly someone mentioned that ASSP sends mail.  Thats not correct. 
Outgoing mail does pass thru it so it can automatically whitelist
anyone you send mail to.

And to keep things on topic, ASSP runs great in front of IMail.  I run
it on the same win2k box that runs my mail server.  When I initially
installed ASSP I was using IMail 8.11.  By putting ASSP in front of
IMail I lifted a massive load off its shoulders, which ASSP seemed to
handle with much fewer resources.  ASSP eats about 80% of my incoming
traffic, andwith the new greylisting/delaying, 60% of those messages
incoming are effectively turned away before they even arrive.

--
--mattRobertson--
Janitor, MSB Web Systems
mysecretbase.com

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