Robert;

I was not complaining at all about the enhanced security of the VISTA product.  
On the contrary, if you have read any of my previous posts concerning the (lack 
of) security within  IMail 2006; ie: the "security" of everyone having "all 
write/change/etc" access to all of the directories into which IMail has working 
access, is my biggest complaint about the current release of the 2006 product, 
and we, as a company, have delayed the installation of IMail 2006 until this 
problem is resolved.

We work with several high-security aspects of both networking and credit card 
processing security and we're already told during one audit that they would 
rescind all of our CISP certifications if we installed the current release of 
IMail onto any of the servers within our networks.

My comment, and the link that I supplied within what I wrote, was a heads-up to 
the IMail development team to let them know they will have to resolve not only 
the current security issues, but also bring both this product, and any future 
releases, into compliance with the enhanced requirements of VISTA.

I totally concur that we all need substantially enhanced security in all 
aspects of computing and applaud Microsoft for taking this next step.

Bruce Barnes
ChicagoNetTech Inc

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Robert E. Spivack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Date:  Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:35:56 -0800

So, what's your point?

That having real security is a PIA?

Sorry, the majority of the IT community has been begging for greater
security and welcomes these changes.

Sure, developers and admins will have to learn how to do things "The right
way" and stop being sploppy.

Of course, you can still always override by giving "allow everything"
rights, but that's how this mess started in the first place.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Barnes
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 4:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [IMail Forum] OT: Imail 2006 problems to get worse when Vista
Released

Not to throw any more water on the development fire at IPSwitch, but the
current problems with directory permissions and the ability of users to be
able to WRITE to file areas under Windows 2000 and Windows 2003 are just the
beginning of the headaches in store for us in the future.

Under Windows VISTA overall operating system security will be significantly
more substantial.  

READ - if we thought setting up the program and configuring file permissions
for IMail 2006 is bad now, just wait for Windows VISTA.  Apparently
Microsoft, in an effort to rein in the plethora of security problems they
have had is in the past is SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING the areas of the operating
system that both the USERS and INSTALLED  SOFTWARE will be able to actually
have WRITE permissions to in their latest design.

Additionally, there will no longer be a default SESSION ISOLATION.  In both
past and current session isolations, the logged in user was always setup as
SESSION ISOLATION 0 (ZERO).  That will no longer be the case in VISTA!

See:
http://windowsconnected.com/blogs/joshs_blog/archive/2006/01/07/295.aspx for
more information about the potential headaches for both developers and end
users.

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