here's why this is important to us:

We use mxguard to quarantine anything it detects as a "high" probability of being spam while "medium" and "low" go right through. We then manually run through the quarantine and review each email. False positives are actually quite low and we can tweak the whitelist files to let those through. This should leave only "new" spam but it doesn't because we're getting more of the same spam that could be removed automatically IF the url-domain was checked in the beginning right after the whitelist.

Kevin R. Gillis wrote:
hi bill,
 
on your network architecture, presumably mxguard sitting in front of av/as/imail?
 
would a perimeter smtp gateway (sitting on most outer edge of your network) that could do url-domain and other whitelist checking work - before traffic reaches your av/as/imail box?
 
bye for now,
 
kg
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Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 7:42 AM
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Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] url-domain file

Apparently, the reason this is happening is because the url-domain list isn't checked against an email until after MxGuard. If the email fails any of its spam tests then it would be quarantined which is a setting we have. Seems like a HUGE waste of processing since the url-domain file would eliminate better than 90% of what mxguard is catching. As I sent to Travis, IMHO it would be MUCH better if Imail would process mail in the following order:

1. URL-Domain
2. Imail Spam filtering
3. 3rd party filtering

Since Queue Mgr manages the url-domain list the process is in this order:

1. Imail Spam filtering
2. 3rd party filtering
3. URL-Domain

Consider all the unnecessary processing of mail that could be eliminated by not having Declude or MxGuard process mail that's on your list? A ton. Based on yesterdays traffic more than 10% of all email would never had to be scanned for viruses (twice since we run two scanners).

This would certainly free up a great deal more processes to make the web messaging faster or to handle even more email per server.


RMilner wrote:
I have documented this since Ipswitch's first attempt with Spam filtering and posted about it in the forum over 2 years ago.
 
Tripp gave same answer he's giving you, but it has never been fixed - as you have witnessed.
 
The only reason I feel most others don't scream about it was the fact they were all using Declude at the time.
 
 


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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 9:40 PM
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Subject: [IMail Forum] url-domain file

I'm having trouble understanding how the url-domain file functions. I have a domain listed in their that's an obvious spammer which is 'nightofyourlife.com'. All these people seem to be able to do to bypass the url-domain list is to simply place a sub in front of their domain name like 'skip.nightofyourlife.com' and they slip through. is this how simple it is to get past the file or am I doing something wrong?

If it is this simple it needs to be changed so it will be triggered with '*.
nightofyourlife.com'.

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