Went to look at this product but cannot download the eval - anyone else have that problem?
Thanks Richard -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Shanbrom Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs help From Mail Filters Website: The result is a unique combination of spam detection techniques that is seldom fooled by spammers' tricks and consistently catches 95% of the spam with less than 1 false positive in 1,000,000 messages http://mail-filters.com/Products/products_main.htm Eric S RMilner wrote: > She is speaking of IMail Premium Content filtering - done through > mailfilters.com which they rebrand in their IMail product - and why > they speak of outsourcing it. The claim has been made by her and > others at IPSwitch and is total False and Deceptive Advertising with > nothing to back it up. > I am also speaking of the same with its horrible results. > Interesting enough, I forwarded EVERYTHING to a gmail account. > They had better filtering. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of > *Matrosity Hosting > *Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2006 6:55 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs help > > pretty sure that may only be true if you were running their Imail > Secure version of Imail. > > RMilner wrote: > >> Considering we see at least 1-2 false positive per 500 emails - >> and roughly 5%-7% of the 500 emails slip through with spam, the >> claim is absolute FALSE AND DECEPTIVE ADVERTISING IN EVERY WAY. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of >> *Kevin Gillis >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:11 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* RE: [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs help on SPAM >> >> hi rmilner, >> of course it will take 25+ years at 70 emails a day for 365 >> days to really conclusively prove this but... I have not had >> a false positive in 6 months and no longer check my SPAM >> folder - instead opting to just move to the Deleted Items >> folder. The only false positives i've heard of anecdotally >> are e-letters that the first time through (after signing up) >> can look like spam. >> i can share that there are some folks at Ipswitch who no >> longer check their spam folder - spam is marked with a [s] in >> the subject, routed by rules to Spam folder or in some cases >> (me and others), moved directly to the deleted, sight unseen. >> due to compliance reasons, some companies must keep all spam >> and can't just do a straight delete, but for those who don't, >> deleting is fine. >> bye for now, >> kg >> >> -----Original Message----- >> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of >> *RMilner >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 14, 2006 3:52 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* RE: [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs help on SPAM >> >> Absolutely bogus figure and false advertising. >> You think you guys would learn about misleading people here. >> /SNIP/ >> that's essentially what we did for our (ipswitch) >> corporate solution and we have seen false positives go to >> 1 in 500,000. updates occur as frequently as every 10 >> minutes (24x7x365) and we just don't have to deal with it >> anymore. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On >> Behalf Of *Kevin Gillis >> *Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2006 9:30 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* RE: [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs help >> on SPAM >> >> Hi Dave and Lim, >> I completely agree. Outsourcing or at least >> implementing as a service where small, but frequent >> incremental updates are delivered to your server in >> near real-time and automatically makes sense given >> the climate for spam (and viruses). >> that's essentially what we did for our (ipswitch) >> corporate solution and we have seen false positives >> go to 1 in 500,000. updates occur as frequently as >> every 10 minutes (24x7x365) and we just don't have to >> deal with it anymore. >> <miniplug> - customers who are running imail secure >> server or ics premium have said that spam has all but >> fallen off the radar as a time consumer - they seem >> to be very happy with it. it catches spam in 30 >> languages with human editors also looking at it (one >> in japan, one in england, 2 in US)</mini plug> >> bye for now, >> kg >> >> -----Original Message----- >> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Behalf Of *Dave Doherty >> *Sent:* Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:27 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs >> help on SPAM >> >> Hi, Lim- >> If you have no tech support people, you probably >> should outsource spam control. It's pretty much >> hands-on to do it right. >> Having said that, there are some gateway >> products, and Declude interfaces directly into >> IMail. Declude has gotten pretty expensive for >> new users, though. >> -Dave Doherty >> Skywaves, Inc. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Lim Siew Yin >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:14 PM >> *Subject:* [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs >> help on SPAM >> >> Hi ppl, >> We're still using IMAIL 7.5 and I need help >> in getting an affordable yet reliable SPAM >> filter... (I hope there is such a thing). >> Since we have 0 Tech support personnel.... I >> am hoping for a user-friendly solution. >> I know IMAIL has some sort of built-in SPAM >> filter... but that works by manually >> maintaining a filter LIST .. is that so? >> (I am guessing here) >> Again... we have 0 Tech support ppl.... so >> noone is gonna maintain the list... which is >> why I am hoping there is a solution >> where by it retrieves/updates the filter list >> automatically.. something like an anti-virus >> program. Is this how SPAM filters >> works? Or does it always need a tech guy/gal >> to maintain it? >> We are a small company... we dont have a lot >> of emails (less than 1000 emails per day - >> 70% of them SPAM...) >> Sorry if my question is too noob... I don't >> have much tech resources to turn to. Any >> help/info is greatly appreciated. >> Thank you for your time. >> Lim. >> >> >> >> __________ NOD32 1.1405 (20060213) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> part000.txt - file is not an archive >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> __________ NOD32 1.1407 (20060213) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> part000.txt - file is not an archive >> >> http://www.eset.com >> > > > __________ NOD32 1.1410 (20060215) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
