Hi Dave - Just revisiting this after the weekend. The good news is that between the isplcln utility and a setting I changed (the backup mail server was not in the list of trusted IPs on the primary mail server), I am now down to just under 13,000 files in the spool on the backup mail server! (yeah, something to celebrate, huh???)
What you wrote below about using LDAP to create a list of trusted addresses was interesting. Up till now, we have just been manually updating the hosts file (adding the IP for both domain.com and mail.domain.com) with the list of all the domains on the primary mail server. Are you saying this is not the correct way to be doing things? Todd -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Spool size OK. Your backup (cache) server needs to be able to identify acceptable addresses, receive messages for those addresses, and route the messages to the mailbox server. So your backup needs to think that it is in charge of the mail for nnepa.com. The challenge is that it has to route the messages to the server that REALLY is in charge of nnepa.com, which will not happen if the backup thinks it is in charge of the domain. So you need to make the mailbox server aware that it is also in charge of mail for another domain, mail.nnepa.com; and you have to set up the backup so that any incoming mail it accepts for nnepa.com is routed out to mail.nnepa.com. Sounds convoluted, but once you get it, it's pretty straightforward. The domain alias on the mailbox server is easy. Open up the administrator, double click the domain, and enter mail.nnepa.com in the domain aliases text field. There are at least two ways get your backup server to handle its part of the deal. Is LDAP running on your mailbox server? If so, there is handly utility written by Sandy Whiteman called LDAP2ALIASES that runs on the backup. It queries the LDAP server on your mailbox machine and creates aliases on your backup for all the users, lists, and aliases. The biggest piece of work may be adding the domain aliases. Each domain on the mailbox server must accept mail for mail.domainname.com as well as domain.com. www.imprimia.com/ browser.asp?visipath=%5Cproducts%5Csoftware%5Cfreeutils%5Cldap2aliases For my part, because I had trouble with LDAP, I wrote a set of utilities that periodically export the registry data from the mailbox server, modify it, upload that data into the registry on the backup, and update the HOSTS file on the backup. It works for me, but messing with registry data is not for the faint of heart. If the LDAP approach works for you, you should try that first. -Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:44 PM Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Spool size > Yes > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:46 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Spool size > > OK, you need to train it so it only accepts inbound mail for valid > addresses. Are both of the servers Imail boxes? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Todd Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:34 PM > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Spool size > > >> Thanks Dave. It's a backup mail server, so I will look and see if there >> are >> other things that might be causing this. >> >> Todd >> >> (a newbie who is tired of taking baby steps - I want to run!!!) >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty >> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:23 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Spool size >> >> I use a VBS script that calls a zipper utiliity. It's really easyonce you >> have the utility. he one I use is ancient and hasn't been supported for >> years. But there's lots of shareware out there and maybe even some >> freeware. >> >> Is this a mailbox server or a gateway? >> >> If you have that many files building up on a mailbox server, then I >> suspect >> you have a bounce rule on a domain that is under attack. Check your >> message >> rules to see if somebody has a nobody alias and a rule that bounces >> anything >> >> that doesn't match a name or two. >> >> If you have that many files on a gateway, then the gateway is accepting >> mail >> >> that is unacceptable to the mailbox server. The best way to fix this is >> to >> export the acceptable addresses from your mailbox server to your gateway >> and >> >> set up the gateway to accept mail only for those addresses. he the >> gateway >> can issue 550 errors instead of bounce messages. It will save a lot on >> bandwidth also. >> >> -d >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Todd Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:59 PM >> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Spool size >> >> >>> Thanks Dave. I set up the isplcln utility just a little bit ago. >>> However, >>> a lot of those .gse files were from today! So even if I had it set up >>> on >>> a >>> daily basis, there are still several thousand postmaster messages in >>> there >>> from today that wouldn't get deleted until tomorrow. If that's not a >>> problem then I'm set. >>> >>> Do you just archive your log files manually, or do you have a script >>> that >>> you use? >>> >>> Todd >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty >>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:58 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Spool size >>> >>> You can download the Imail spool cleaner utility from their website. >>> Call >>> it nightly as follows: >>> >>> isplcln -n 1 -l 5 >>> >>> -n refers to the age of the files to delete. This applies to all but log >>> files. >>> -l refers to the age of the log files to delete. >>> >>> In both cases, the number says how old they fiels should be days. >>> >>> So my command line deletes all surplus files over one day old, and all >>> log >>> fuiles over 5 days old. I zip my log files and place them in an archive >>> directory anyway, so the log part is pretty much immaterial on my >>> system. >>> >>> -d >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Todd Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:28 PM >>> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Spool size >>> >>> >>>> Going through the spool folder I found that there were 22,000 ".gse" >>>> files >>>> (which I see are generated by the postmaster). I looked at several of >>>> them >>>> and they were basically bounces from email addresses that didn't exist. >>>> Is >>>> there a reason to keep these (my gut says no). Also, Darin mentioned >>>> that >>> >>>> I >>>> can clean up files orphaned D* files without a matching Q file. Is >>>> there >>>> an >>>> easy way to go through and do this without me having to look through >>>> them >>>> all? >>>> >>>> Thanks again, >>>> >>>> Todd >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell >>>> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >>>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:00 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Spool size >>>> >>>> Yes, this indicates a problem. We run about 125-150K messages a day >>>> (96-98%) filtered out by Declude, but in general we only have approx >>>> 300 >>>> or >>>> so files in the spool. I have my QueueMon settings to alert us when it >>>> gets >>>> >>>> over 500. >>>> >>>> You need to start looking at those files and figure out what is wrong. >>>> >>>> Darrell >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And >>>> Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, >>>> MRTG >>>> >>>> Integration, and Log Parsers. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Todd Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:13 AM >>>> Subject: [IMail Forum] Spool size >>>> >>>> >>>>> How many files are too many in the spool? Our backup mail server's >>>>> spool >>>>> seems to grow by the day, and is currently at 56K files. The file >>>>> types >>>>> vary, but does this suggest a problem somewhere? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Todd >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>> Todd Richards >>>>> National Network, Inc. >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> 402.778.7903 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html >>>>> List Archive: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ >>>>> Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html >>>> List Archive: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ >>>> Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html >>>> List Archive: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ >>>> Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html >>> List Archive: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ >>> Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html >>> List Archive: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ >>> Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ >>> >>> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html >> List Archive: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ >> Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ >> >> To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html >> List Archive: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ >> Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ >> >> > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
