RE: [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs help on SPAM

[Kevin Gillis]

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Hello rmilner,   Sorry to hear of the results - it's different than what we (ipswitch and customers) are experiencing (on the FP side, not on the ones that slip through) who are running the premium anti-spam.  We are not seeing anything close to that range for false positives.  The latest round of new stuff slipping through appears to be stock tip and software for sale themes.   what version of the premium anti-spam are you running?  any chance can you send along some of the false spam so that we can seed the engine?   I used to go through thousands of mails flagged as spam and did not find FP's.  as mentioned previously, i no longer check my spam and have it go straight to delete.   bye for now,   kg -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of RMilner Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 1:20 AM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs help on SPAM Considering we see at least 1-2 false positive per 500 emails - and roughly 5%-7% of the 500 emails slip through with spam, the claim is absolute FALSE AND DECEPTIVE ADVERTISING IN EVERY WAY. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Gillis Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:11 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs help on SPAM hi rmilner,   of course it will take 25+ years at 70 emails a day for 365 days to really conclusively prove this but... I have not had a false positive in 6 months and no longer check my SPAM folder - instead opting to just move to the Deleted Items folder.  The only false positives i've heard of anecdotally are e-letters that the first time through (after signing up) can look like spam.   i can share that there are some folks at Ipswitch who no longer check their spam folder - spam is marked with a [s] in the subject, routed by rules to Spam folder or in some cases (me and others), moved directly to the deleted, sight unseen.   due to compliance reasons,  some companies must keep all spam and can't just do a straight delete, but for those who don't, deleting is fine.   bye for now,   kg -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of RMilner Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 3:52 AM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs help on SPAM Absolutely bogus figure and false advertising.   You think you guys would learn about misleading people here.       /SNIP/ that's essentially what we did for our (ipswitch) corporate solution and we have seen false positives go to 1 in 500,000.  updates occur as frequently as every 10 minutes (24x7x365) and we just don't have to deal with it anymore.           From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Gillis Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:30 AM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs help on SPAM Hi Dave and Lim,   I completely agree.  Outsourcing or at least implementing as a service where small, but frequent incremental updates are delivered to your server in near real-time and automatically makes sense given the climate for spam (and viruses).   that's essentially what we did for our (ipswitch) corporate solution and we have seen false positives go to 1 in 500,000.  updates occur as frequently as every 10 minutes (24x7x365) and we just don't have to deal with it anymore.     <miniplug> - customers who are running imail secure server or ics premium have said that spam has all but fallen off the radar as a time consumer  - they seem to be very happy with it.   it catches spam in 30 languages with human editors also looking at it (one in japan, one in england, 2 in US)</mini plug>   bye for now,   kg -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dave Doherty Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:27 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: Re: [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs help on SPAM Hi, Lim-   If you have no tech support people, you probably should outsource spam control. It's pretty much hands-on to do it right.   Having said that, there are some gateway products, and Declude interfaces directly into IMail. Declude has gotten pretty expensive for new users, though.   -Dave Doherty  Skywaves, Inc.   ----- Original Message ----- From: Lim Siew Yin To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:14 PM Subject: [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs help on SPAM Hi ppl,   We're still using IMAIL 7.5 and I need help in getting an affordable yet reliable SPAM filter... (I hope there is such a thing). Since we have 0 Tech support personnel.... I am hoping for a user-friendly solution. I know IMAIL has some sort of built-in SPAM filter... but that works by manually maintaining a filter LIST .. is that so? (I am guessing here)   Again... we have 0 Tech support ppl.... so noone is gonna maintain the list... which is why I am hoping there is a solution where by it retrieves/updates the filter list automatically.. something like an anti-virus program.  Is this how SPAM filters works?   Or does it always need a tech guy/gal to maintain it?   We are a small company... we dont have a lot of emails (less than 1000 emails per day - 70% of them SPAM...)   Sorry if my question is too noob... I don't have much tech resources to turn to.  Any help/info is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.     Lim.   __________ NOD32 1.1405 (20060213) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. part000.txt - file is not an archive http://www.eset.com __________ NOD32 1.1407 (20060213) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. part000.txt - file is not an archive http://www.eset.com