Somehow I don't see this stopping at just "bulk e-mailers", but see this as
the beginning of a very slippery slope - once it starts, it will just get
worst. Allowing this to happen is something we may all want to judiciously
work against and prevent.
To quote a friend's signature line from her e-mail:
"They first came for the Communists - and I didn't speak up because I wasn't
a communist.
Then they came for the Jews - and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for trade unionists - and I didn't speak up because I wasn't
a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics - and I didn't speak up because I was a
Protestant.
Then they came for me and by that time no one was left to speak up.
~ Pastor Martin Niemoeller"
Bruce Barnes
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matti Haack
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 05:42
To: Bruce Barnes
Subject: Re[2]: Pay for SMTP to othercomapnies? was: [IMail Forum] Email to
Yahoo accounts returned unknown
> Here's another article on the same issue that goes into a little more
> detail about the how and why of the plan and disputes the
> effectiveness of such an
> arrangement:
"In exchange for paying, e-mail senders will be guaranteed their
messages won't be filtered and will bear a seal alerting recipients they're
legitimate."
"The plan, while it's optional and would apply to only a fraction of people
sending e-mail, amounts to a reversal in the economics of the internet
because it would charge message senders rather than those receiving them."
"and Yahoo said the program, which is being offered through a company called
Goodmail Systems, will target banks, online retailers and other groups that
send large amounts of e-mail. "
"This doesn't mean that the ISPs will block all commercial e-mail that is
not Goodmail certified. Marketers will still be able to send their e-mail to
AOL and Yahoo customers, but their messages could be blocked by the ISPs'
spam filters."
So, as I dislike the whole idea, they say, that this would be an
optional service for Bulk-emailers to pass the spamm filters.
Goodmail has a list of facts about their program:
http://www.goodmailsystems.com/certifiedmail/index.php
>> welcome to the new scheme of pay to play. They have tagged you as a
>> commercial emailer. You have to pay per email to skip their filters.
Sorry, but this statement seems a little bit pathetic and missleading....
Matti
> http://msn.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,124762,00.asp
> Bruce Barnes
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc
> Catuogno
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 07:40
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Pay for SMTP to othercomapnies? was: [IMail Forum] Email
> to Yahoo accounts returned unknown
> http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70164-0.html?tw=wn_index_9
> This is the only thing I have seen on anything like it so far, and I'm
> sure this link has been posted here before.
> Marc
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matti Haack
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:11 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Pay for SMTP to othercomapnies? was: [IMail Forum] Email to
> Yahoo accounts returned unknown
> Hello Peter,
> can you give us some facts/sources/links, which explains what leads
> you to this opinion? I never heard that any provider is actual
> taking money for incomming SMTP-Connections. I know it is discussed,
> but are there any hard facts? Any major "free"-Mailer doing this at the
moment?
> Greetings
> Matti
>> welcome to the new scheme of pay to play. They have tagged you as a
>> commercial emailer. You have to pay per email to skip their filters.
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Subj: [IMail Forum] Email to Yahoo accounts returned unknown
>> Date: Wed Mar 8, 2006 11:01 am
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>> Trying to send messages to Yahoo accounts and the messages are being
>> returned as User Unknown. However, can send to these accounts via
>> other providers. Can send to non-Yahoo accounts without a problem.
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