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Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:03:42 PM
Subject: IMail Forum Digest


Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 08:46:51 -0600
From: Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Backup Mail Server
Reply-To: [email protected]
Wednesday, December 20, 2006, 12:28:21 PM, Len Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Thanks Martin.  That is on my list as well.  In our case, we can have the
>>website go down for a while and people don't say much.  But take away their
>>email and things get ugly...  :o

LC> [Snip]
LC> Assuming the disk is the most unreliable (mechanical) component AND
LC> is the location of mail storage, every business mail server should be 
LC> running RAID 1 on all disks.   This gives in-box redundancy.
RAID 1+0 is better, although more expensive.

LC> [Snip]
LC> With the MX front-end receiving from Internet, and providing a
LC> reliable store/forward buffer in front of the mailbox server, any 
LC> down-time by the mailbox server is less panicky because the front-end 
LC> MX continues queuing inbound mail.
The MX front-end only relieves the concern about mail getting
returned. The primary panic and pressure continues to be from the
customers who cannot send or receive during the period in which Imail
is down.

I think it is a good idea to have a warm Imail backup server AND
either dual MX front-ends at the same MX-priority level or a warm MX
front-end backup server.

They always break at 3 am or otherwise at the very worst possible
time.

LC> [Snip]
LC> Len


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From: "Todd Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Backup Mail Server
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:17:36 -0600
Reply-To: [email protected]
Yes, mail2.ourdomain.com is our backup mail server / backup MX.  I know it
shouldn't be accepting mail until called upon, and that's what I'm worried
about (that it is).  :(

Todd 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Len Conrad
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Backup Mail Server


>Thanks for your comments.  So does this mean that we would do away with 
>mail2.ourdomain.com?

is that your backup mailserver and backup MX?  the backup mail server
shouldn't accepting mail until the primary goes down.

>   I understand all of the benefits that you mention about a front line 
>of defense.  I just recall seeing the errors when doing dnsreports, 
>etc. when there is only one MX record.
>
>I had been seriously contemplating setting up an ASSP box, so I would 
>assume that would serve the same purpose as IMGate.

yes,

>   I'm not familiar with IMGate,
>and am certainly not married to going that route.  I just understood it 
>to be cheap (free) and can run on a lightweight box.

Yes.  A great combination is IMGate out front catching all the worst stuff
and giving in/outbound redunancy and (pre-fetching) DNS, and then the heavey
content-filtering (anti-spam/virus from
Imail/delclude/assp/sniffer/whatever) on the Imail box.

I'm making improvements now to IMGate to add weighted scoring but always in
IMGate's original philosophy of doing as much rejecting as possible before
the DATA command.

Len



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Subject: [IMail Forum] Global users changes not working
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:35:40 -0500
From: "Duffin, Gregory J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I am running Imail 2006.1.  When I go to Global user changes and select
"allow web access" and "Yes"  it takes a minute or two and completes the
save.  However, some user calls and are denied access.  When I check to
see if Allow web access is checked for them it is not.  Is anyone else
experiencing this problem?
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I am using the AD directory for my user base, running Imail on Windows
2003 R2 srv pack 1.
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Thank You
______________________________________
Greg Duffin

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D931290917-21122006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank=20
You</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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From: "Matrosity Hosting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Global users changes not working
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:46:27 -0500
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similar problem exists for us with regard to mailbox size. If I select "Use
the default setting for the domain" no changes are applied but if I select
"Specify Size" it does make the changes.


Bill Foresman 
Matrosity Hosting 
www.matrosity.com 
850.656.2644 



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duffin, Gregory J
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [IMail Forum] Global users changes not working


I am running Imail 2006.1.  When I go to Global user changes and select
"allow web access" and "Yes"  it takes a minute or two and completes the
save.  However, some user calls and are denied access.  When I check to see
if Allow web access is checked for them it is not.  Is anyone else
experiencing this problem?

I am using the AD directory for my user base, running Imail on Windows 2003
R2 srv pack 1.



Thank You
______________________________________
Greg Duffin

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Hosting</FONT></SPAN>=20
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size=3D2>www.matrosity.com</FONT></SPAN>=20
<BR><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial =
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Gregory=20
J<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:36 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
[email protected]<BR><B>Subject:</B> [IMail Forum] Global =
users=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D931290917-21122006><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>I&nbsp;am=20
running&nbsp;Imail 2006.1.&nbsp; When I go to Global user changes and =
select=20
"allow web access"&nbsp;and "Yes" &nbsp;it takes a minute or two and =
completes=20
the save.&nbsp; However, some user calls and are denied access.&nbsp; =
When I=20
check to see if Allow web access is checked for them it is not.&nbsp; Is =
anyone=20
else experiencing this problem?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D931290917-21122006><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D931290917-21122006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am =
using the AD=20
directory for my user base, running Imail on Windows 2003 R2 srv pack=20
1.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D931290917-21122006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank=20
You</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>______________________________________</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Greg =
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Subject: [IMail Forum] Users are denied access
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:57:22 -0500
From: "Duffin, Gregory J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Here is another odd one that I can't seem to figure out.  On Imail
2006.1, windows 2003 R2 srv pack 1
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Sometime time in the night, the time varies, but its been 11pm, 1 AM, 3
AM, not real reason why but only late at night, my users are unable to
login to the webmail. They get Failed to authorize user
=20
I am using Active directory as my user base.  The imail server is a
member server in the a 2000 server domain.
=20
All Imail services are up and running.  IISadmin and Web are running
also.   If I reboot the server it works fine until that night. =20
=20
I recently installed Imail 2006.1 on a new server, this is not an
upgrade.
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This happens everyday for the last week (the time of the new install).
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Any ideas?
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Thank You =20
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______________________________________
Greg Duffin

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D048185017-21122006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here =
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one that I can't seem to figure out.&nbsp; On Imail 2006.1, windows 2003 =
R2 srv=20
pack 1</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D048185017-21122006><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Sometime time in the=20
night, the time varies, but its been 11pm, 1 AM, 3 AM, not real reason =
why but=20
only late at night, my users are unable to login to the webmail. They =
get Failed=20
to authorize user</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D048185017-21122006><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D048185017-21122006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am =
using Active=20
directory as my user base.&nbsp; The imail server is a member server in =
the a=20
2000 server domain.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D048185017-21122006><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D048185017-21122006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All =
Imail services=20
are up and running.&nbsp; IISadmin and Web are running also.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
If I=20
reboot the server it works fine until that night.&nbsp; =
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D048185017-21122006><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D048185017-21122006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I =
recently installed=20
Imail 2006.1 on a new server, this is not an =
upgrade.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D048185017-21122006><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D048185017-21122006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This =
happens=20
everyday for the last week (the time of the new =
install).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D048185017-21122006><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D048185017-21122006><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D048185017-21122006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any=20
ideas?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D048185017-21122006><FONT face=3DArial=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D048185017-21122006><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D048185017-21122006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank =
You&nbsp;=20
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>______________________________________</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Greg =
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