As someone who works closely with credit card and merchant services, we have been monitoring several high-profile losses in the UK, as well as the US, and, while US law certainly does not apply in the UK, there are other liability laws that apply to lost and stolen data that have made their way through the courts in the UK as well.
With the present level of stored data, whether it's e-mail (as in the case of the US White House and our President who's aids allegedly lost e-mail data which was later recovered because other agencies routinely back up ALL government initiated e-mail content to remote severs) or employee or financial data, the ultimate responsibility lies with the company that has collected that data, whether they are in the US or the UK. Although local laws apply, there are now stringent data protection laws on the books in both countries. I will, however, applaud both the UK, France and the EU for their very stringent privacy laws! These are substantially better at protecting the consumer than the laws in the US, where data collected at POS and via online websites can be used for just about whatever the owner of the store or website wants to do with it. I applaud both your government and British Airways for resisting and, intimately, modifying the request by the US Department of Homeland Security when they demanded passenger data for flights originating outside the US. As Benjamin Franklin so eloquently stated, "Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." Bruce Barnes -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Waller Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:39 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Backup Software Assuming, of course, your business and customers are in the USA. National laws apply ;) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Barnes Sent: 17 July 2007 17:35 To: [email protected] Subject: [SPAM] RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Backup Software Whatever software you use, remember to have a GOOD PLAN for storing your backed up data OFF SITE. You will also need a good plan for the transport of that data. It is NOT SAFE to just give it to someone to transport to their home and store it there. If the data is lost in transport, you WILL be held liable for the lost data by the courts as several court cases have firmly established liability for data that is transported by employees on behalf of a company and case law has the same effect as if a law was passed by Congress or your local state legislature - it becomes defacto law and must be adhered to and abided by just as if the law had been passed in a legislative session. Tapes are NOT dependable for long-term backup. They are difficult to restore from if they are not kept in a controlled environment. If they are exposed to strong magnetic fields, dropped, or exposed to high head, as in an automobile, they WILL loose your data. CDs that are burned on in-machine CD burners are not always reliable and will also loose data over a long term. The best mode of backup is now REMOTE, ENCRYPTED backup. There are many solutions available, some of them HIPPA compliant. None of them require the use of an employee or courier to transport the data. Several of them provide very strong encryption, ie: 448 bit, blowfish, further secured by a password that's used to generate the key for the encryption. The longer the password, the longer the key, the better the encryption. Before you make a backup decision, make certain it will not turn around and bite you in the butt in the future! Bruce Barnes Chicago -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Richards Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:23 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Backup Software Thanks Everyone. I hadn't considered Retrospect, but will look at them too. Todd -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Ognenoff Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Backup Software We use Retrospect too...servers and clients and it works great. - Andy > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Imail_Forum- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hirthe, Alexander > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:20 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: AW: [IMail Forum] OT: Backup Software > > Hello Todd, > > we are using EMC (formerly Dantz) Retrospect Backup, and we are happy > with it. > Cheap for many servers, easy to use and with the "Value Package" > including all, disaster Recovery, SQL, Exchange, Open File, ... > > http://www.emcinsignia.com/products/smb/retroforwin/comparison/ > http://www.emcinsignia.com/products/smb/retroforwin/addons/ > > > Alex > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Imail_Forum- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Todd Richards > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Juli 2007 03:37 > > An: [email protected] > > Betreff: [IMail Forum] OT: Backup Software > > > > Sorry for the off-topic post, but with the expertise on this list > > I'm hoping for some advice if anyone has a minute. > > > > We are in need for some new backup software for our network (about 8 > > Windows > > 2003 servers). We had been using ArcServe (version 9, they are now > > on > > 11) > > and I'm not set on staying with that. Money is an object, but I want > > something reliable too. We will be using a combination of NAS and > > tapes > > for off-site storage, so that support is necessary. No Exchange to > > worry about, but we do run SQL Server 2000 on 2 of the machines. So > > it would be great if it could handle that but not an absolute > > necessity. > > > > I've looked at Backup Assist, Backup Exec, and Genie Soft. > > > > If anyone has any thoughts on these, or something else, I'd really > > appreciate it! > > > > Thanks! > > > > Todd > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > List Archive: http://www.mail- > > archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > > > > > Siller AG, Wannenaeckerstrasse 43, 74078 Heilbronn > Vorstand: Prof. H.-F. Siller (Vorsitzender), Joern Buelow, Ralf Michi > Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Armin Sohler Reg. Gericht Stuttgart, HRB > 107707, Ust-Id Nr. 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