Non-sense.  Lyris and Listserv are so incredibly over-priced that it's
shameful to even think about purchasing them.  Imail fills an incredibly
important niche market... the part that the majority of operators--the small
guys--live and play.  An updated and improved Listserv, integral to IMail is
an important selling point for IMail and for Ipswitch as a whole.  I think
Ipswitch would stand to gain business from many ISPs if they would improve
their list service.

As it stands now, the only real option a small or mid-size organization has
is to switch to a LInux/Unix based list manager, of which there are many to
choose.  Take LISTAR for instance.  It has pretty much everything we've been
asking for from IMail, and has the added benefit of being free.  It just so
happens to be the list server I am switching to in the coming days, but
doesn't change my original point.  An integrated offering is always going to
be better than a piece meal offering such as you will find in the *nix
field.  An integrated offering is easier to implement and administrate.  Two
very key ingredients for keeping system administrators happy.

IMail must upgrade its listserver!

Anthony



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gaudin, Marius
> (Softec)
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 12:43 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] List server archives and search engine
>
>
> Eric,
>
> Thank you for asking. There's a bunch of features which would be
> desirable.
> I also contributed several features to the IMail wishlist, BUT...
> today, I'd
> prefer a product which does a single job as good as possible. I don't see
> any reason to "enhance" a product by adding features beyond it's
> main focus.
>
> One of the best examples I know is Winzip (even if there's a free clone
> named powerarchiver by now). The worst example I know is MS's SMS,
> containing everything except a manageable software distribution (my
> apologies to all of you SMS cracks out there).
>
> If I need a powerful list server on Windows NT, I choose Lyris or
> Listserv.
> They are designed for what they do, and they do it well. Don't
> re-invent the
> wheel.
>
> To come back to your question: Keep IMail a powerful, up-to-date mail
> server. For enhancements, look at the list archives and add the most
> requested features like domain re-routing and open (standard) interfaces,
> e.g. for virus checkers and reporting tools. Then, let others do
> the "out-of
> focus" work. Let THEM develop (and maintain!) the "nice-to-haves" for your
> product, like HKSI did with his web templates (good job, Ron!). I could
> imagine a powerful third-party add-on listserver based on IMail's open
> (standard) mailserver messaging interface...(to be developed).
>
> Regards, Marius
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric A. Shanbrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 2:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] List server archives and search engine
>
>
> Actually the archive pointed to at the bottom of the list messages are not
> maintained by us. I honestly think that the list server you get with IMail
> is well worth the price you all are paying for it <FREE>. I would
> be curious
> to hear what enhancements are looked for and what they would be worth to
> develop/add them.
>
> Eric S
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