----- Original Message -----
From: "Mailadmin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Where Did My Bounce Go?
> While we're in this little admin bitch session, does anyone know why so
many
> colleges and universities operate open relays? Do the admins not have a
clue
> or do they just not give a damn? I really get burned when I get a load of
> spam from some damn colleges mail server, especially the state supported
> ones.
As a college admin (with closed relays, thank you very much...) maybe I can
offer a few reasons...
1) We're GROSSLY underpaid, overworked, underfunded, undertrained.
2) College Administration is Faculty with little or no technical expertise.
3) College Administration doesn't understand why you need money for a real
mail server capable of relay control. The free one you found and installed
on a DOS box when they demanded email in 1986 seems to work just fine.
4) College Administration demands that tenured faculty not be bothered to
change their SMTP server to their ISP and close the relay. It works fine
now so don't mess with it.
5) College Administration doesn't see why you want to go to that system
administration class. Everything is working fine now.
6) College Administration appointed the secretary that was most proficient
in Word and Excel as the network administrator.
7) There was no formal IS department in most colleges when departments
wanted email so each department was forced to elect a network admin and
bring up their own mail using the guidlines mentioned in 1-6 above.
There are many more reasons but I think you get the idea. ;-)
--Todd.
>
> David Daniels
> System Administrator
> Starfish Internet Service
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "Clicking my fingers to the bone"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 5:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Where Did My Bounce Go?
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Madscientist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 11:31 AM
> > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Where Did My Bounce Go?
> >
> >
> > > This could have been handled a little better don't you think?
> >
> > Depends. I have <insert reasonable number here> of years experience on
> Unix
> > etc systems, as well as NT, and all I ever seem to get is "NT
admins..blah
> > blah.. crap..blah blah.. don't now anything..blah blah... get a real OS
..
> > blah blah".
> >
> > What pisses me off is the automatic assumption that if it's on an NT
> system,
> > the Op knows nothing and the Unix admin knows everything. So far ths
> morning
> > I have had more calls than I need doubting my professional ability,
> without
> > a jumped up dick like this one adding to it.
> >
> > What he said was wrong in just about every aspect. Get in and tell him
he
> is
> > wrong, if he had come in my suite banging on like that, the only thing
> that
> > would have got to the hospital faster than him would have been the
lights
> on
> > the ambulance taking him there. He got of lightly.
> >
> > I now return you to your scheduled programming, where the next idiot
from
> > the university blaming his inability to get mail from my network on my
NT
> > boxen rather than his flakey connection (which has is a documented
history
> > of being crap) gets smacked with a HotSwap backplane and shut in a comms
> > cupboard.
> >
> >
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