1: Spam and virus are separate products(actually they use the same .exe file,
but you need licensing for the appropriate functionality). You must purchase
both.
2: Can't comment - I only have Declude Virus.
3: As a "wintel weenie" Declude is a big plus. On the AV side, setup is a 10
minute thing - VERY simple. I would expect similar benefits on the spam side.
IMGate is free, but your time is not. Unless you want an excuse to get your
hands into a Linux/FreeBSD setup, the lower implementation costs will balance
out any financial equations quickly. Also, the IMGate AV stuff is based on
Kaspersky which will cost approximately the same as Declude AV.
4: Declude would open up less security issues than IMGate. It integrates
"internally" with iMail and requires no changes to changes to your current
iMail security settings. IMGate would require setting up another box to act
as your border mail gateway, which would have to be secured separately from
your iMail box. If you're using SMTP Auth, then Declude would be much
easier to implement and secure.
Declude service is great, they are responsive to feature requests. I have
been very happy.
The above may seem anti-IMGate, but it's not. Some IMGate advantages:
1: Processing is offloaded from the iMail box. If the IMail box is already
stressed, Declude might be too much for it. Declude is actually very
efficient, but if the box is already being pushed...
2: Even though there is a bit more of a learning curve, once mastered you can
drop in as many IMGates as you want/need with minimal cost.
3: IMGate would supply a secondary MX for mail queuing and relay if your
Declude box is down.
4: IMGate can drop the spam sooner in some instances. Declude works off the
queue files, which means the server has already received the spam, but Declude
stops it before it can get to your user's mailbox or be relayed back out.
IMGate can look at the RBL/Orbs type lists and drop some connections before
the message is received.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee H. Buskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 6:46 PM
Subject: [IMail Forum] Hello, I Need some feedback on Declude
> OK,
>
> I have finally had enough with the spam mail. I am sure if I am fed up, so
> are our users. I have seen a lot about Declude on this list, so I thought I
> ask the questions here, to actual users. As I can't test it, and there is
> very little info on the web page, please bear with me.
>
> 1. There are two products, Declude Antivirus and Declude Spam Pro. Are
> these two distinctly different products, and in order to get both AnitVirus
> and AntiSpam, should I buy both?
>
> 2. The Anti-Spam Pro product has per-user configuration options. Could I
> trouble someone to give me a test account where I can log into this product
> and scope out the interface? If the Admin interface is web based as well,
> what is the general opinion on it's architecture? (I am immediately reminded
> of the functionality of the I-mail web templates. I though it was the
> coolest thing in the world till I saw the HKSI templates...)
>
> 3. I know IMgate is free, but I am wintel weenie and just don't have the
> time to do the Linux thing.....YET..
>
> 4. Does the Declude solution introduce any security issues I should be aware
> of?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________
> Lee H. Buskey
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick Mathews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 4:38 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Use web-server to redirect to IMail
>
> yeah, hang on though, i'm supposed to be off, but i've only recently
> stabilized my cluster to where i can take a vacation day or two. in other
> words you're right: i just can't prove it to you without terminaling in.
> now, if you MAKE me terminal in, list, i'll have to setup a bogus domain
> or use my personal one to make screen shots that i can put on my (pat you've
> gotta be dreaming...) website so that next time someone asks, i just point
> them to a link, instead of ranting at them like i'm doing now.
> so Dont Make Me Do It Buddy... i'm hangin by a thread here, and i'm under my
> boss' and doctors orders to do nothing but eat sleep and bang on the piano
> til wednesday 8am. then i have to go back and deal with my clueless
> baptists, buddhists, yuppies, hippies, farmers and freaks.
>
> your dns needs to be canonical for it to work.
>
> half the time i'm more clueless than the users i support. the other half
> i'm only AS clueless.
> i'm dns challenged, i know those charts 'by rote' i can't play a dns box
> with Feeling and artisitic expressive emotion just yet... like this maudlin
> rant: www.patmathews.net/4.mp3
>
> but i know that that's how we do it. i set up [EMAIL PROTECTED] on
> my box and as long as i'm pointing my browser at mail.patmathews.net, it
> will work. if i have my browser pointed to mail.swva.net, then to use the
> patmathews.net account i would have to login with my full 'domain-name
> included' email address, and vice versa. and verse-vice-a. and whatever.
>
> this guy really needs that vacation. gonna go find a piano list somewhere,
> now that i have time. these people don't (sniffle) appreciate me. (sniffle
> sniffle)
> they're awl mahginal. dat's it. dey're just Broken As Designed BAD people.
> i'm not tawkin nomaw ta any uvyas no maw, i'm gonna play my piano til TOOSDY
> mebbe evin ta WENSDY mawnin ova heah, and fageddaboud youse louses. i
> donwanna post no maw. im gonna bang on my piano and sleep and eat and bang
> on the piano some maw.
> maybe if you're real nice, i'll go away for good....
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lee H. Buskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 02:22 PM
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Use web-server to redirect to IMail
>
>
> | Rick,
> |
> | What I was trying to say is, if all the domains that I-mail hosts are
> | virtual, meaning only one IP address assigned to the box, then all web
> | users, regardless of domain, will be served a common page for the initial
> | logon page. After they log in with their full address, I-mail knows what
> | domain they belong to, and will serve up the appropriate templates from
> that
> | particular domains web directory. This is not an issue if each domain has
> | it's own IP address assigned in Imail. Anyway, that's what I seem to
> recall
> | from the last time I looked into that. Can I get comments or
> corroboration
> | from the list?
> |
> | ________________________
> | Lee H. Buskey
> | |
> | |Not sure if I am understanding what the problem is, but I have put a web
> | |folder in each of my domains and put all the templates in there and this
> | allows each domain to have their own templates. This may be way off from
> | what you guys are needing.
> | rick
>
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