Jon

    Quick lesson on the anti-relay police.  These are self appointed
services that are trying to help honest mail admins secure their servers and
to identify those who don't, either through ignorance or malicious intent.
MAPS and ORBS were the two biggest databases of open relay mail servers, the
sources for most of the spam on the internet.  ORBS closed due to the legal
hassles this involves and MAPS went for profit.  Now there have been spawned
a whole crop of baby ORBS clones.  They are not affiliated and so when ever
they get a report of an open relay or you request it, they scan against your
system.  Nothing personal, they are just doing their self appointed jobs.
If your system is secured, no harm done.  If it is relaying you get notified
and hopefully it gets fixed.  If a system is left as an open relay, then it
becomes a public menace to the rest of the internet, by allowing spammers to
send out their garbage unchecked.  The end result is that if you network is
an open relay it gets listed and mail admins who choose to can block any and
all mail from your network.  Besides, your company pays for it's bandwidth
and your users may in turn be paying for your services.  With an open relay,
you are giving away your email service, which spammers will gladly use until
they take up 100% of your bandwidth.  I don't like spam and I don't like
free loaders so I don't mind getting scanned and my company has a simple
policy, anyone caught spamming from one of our accounts is dropped as a
customer.  No arguments and no appeals.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong but I would assume your company has some
similar feelings on this?  BTW Len provides free assistance and a program to
help reduce the spam your network receives.  Check it out if you are
interested or are getting abused by outside spammers.

Kevin Childers
NetQuick Customer Support.
(910) 486-7845
(888) 228-0312



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] relay test - Criminal behavior?


> Len since you replied to this post so I will assume you are somehow
> responsible for this scanning.
>
> Why do you scan another persons server without their permission? What
> gives you the right?
>
> If your neighbor walked around the neighborhood and knocked on all of
> your windows to make sure they were locked, they would probably end up
> being shot in many parts of the world. Barring something that drastic,
> it would still be criminal trespass and definately considered abnormal
> behavior and not welcomed by the majority of homeowners. The analogy
> gets even more disgusting if the person knocking on your windows reports
> to your insurance agency that your windows are unlocked and they
> discontinue your insurance and let all of the other insurance companies
> know you left your windows unlocked.
>
> So I ask again, what gives you the right to knock on my windows Len? My
> windows are locked Len, I dont need you to tell me. If this behavior is
> not illegal, it definately is unethical and the height of arrogance.
>
> jon
>
> Len Conrad wrote:
>
> >
> >> I have my Imail Server set to only relay for my own IP addresses.
> >
> >
> > then relax
> >
> >
> >> Is it normal for to get tested like this?
> >
> >
> > yes
> >
> >> I had a relay test last week for a different service.
> >
> >
> > good things happen together
> >
> >> How do you know if you pass
> >
> >
> > because we told you that you had the right settings. congrats.
> >
> > Len
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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