The problem appears to be solved.. We are using the Imail database and
have over 1000 domains per box. The problem seems to be directly related
to both the inbox size, fragmentation and who is logged in via web
messaging. When a few people log on who have large mail boxes, it seems
to cause this problem. It could also have to do with the swap file size
which we increased to 1500-2000 MB's. I used the defrag program that
comes with Win2k to analyze and defrag. I had to do it multiple times
and it took a long time because it kept stalling.

I'm not what exactly fixed the problem, just it has gone away.

-Frazer


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 8:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] 100% CPU usage problem FIXED?

Frazer,

We are thinking of upgrading from 6.06 to 7.05 hf2 but I am a little
worried
about the webmail issue that a few people are reporting.  Are you using
the
Imail database or SQL?  When I talked with Ipswitch tech support today
they
said the problem was only with SQL database Imail installations.  We
have
about 1,000 domains and 20,000 users so we do not want to have avoidable
problems.

Has your problem been solved?

Last question, what defrag software did you use that identified how
fragmented specific files are/were?

Thanks.

Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Frazer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:58 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] 100% CPU usage problem FIXED?


Defragging the drive, cleaning up mailboxes over 100MB's and tripling
the swap file size seems to have worked. I noticed that a few single
mail boxes were fragmented over 1,000 times, before the defrag. I'm sure
that can't be good.

Thanks for all the support on this List. You guys rule!!

-Frazer

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Len Conrad
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 3:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] 100% CPU usage problem


>The service doesn't die, it just uses 100% CPU in my case. I Called
>Ipswitch which didn't help, they basically blamed it on the Classic
>Templates. Going to do a defrag tonight

good

>double the memory

good,  but note before and after swappping params.

but what service in Imail swappable? none I reckon.  they must all be
locked into RAM and never swapped.

>and clean up
>user mailboxes that are over 100MB's in size.

yep, imagine iwebmsg (or imap) process needing to repeatedly scan the
mbx
file to pick up all the headers and chop them into 25 or 50 per html
page,
then the user deletes some msgs, and the whole re-read of the 100 mb
file
starts over again.  For just one iwebmsg user with a 100 mb file, he can

pretty much put the disk drive on its knees.  I don't know how iwebmsg
handles in memory the msg headers of a 00 mb .mbx, but I'm bet they
aren't
kept memory, so the disk , for just one user, will be extremely busy.

This is a situation where 160 mbyte/sec SCSI disks with 128 megs of
on-board controller cache really helps.

And having the imail spool directory on a separate controller+drive from

the mailbox controllers+drives.  and if you have to swap (argh!!), have
the
swap on a separate controller+drive, or at least in it own dedicated
partition.  Nothing worse than a fragmented swap space.

and of course you don't want ANY swapping going on in a dedicated
mailbox
server.

>Hopefully this will fix the problem.

wouldn�t that be nice.   Let us know.

Len

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