Typically the solution here is to have the client get a set of fixed
IP's, and then dial them in. If they can't/won't do that, then
unfortunately they must go.

_M

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| Subject: Re: Re[4]: [IMail Forum] ORBZ being replaced with DSBL
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| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Madscientist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 13:08
| Subject: RE: Re[4]: [IMail Forum] ORBZ being replaced with DSBL
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| 
| > RE: | authentication. How hard is it to run with SMTP Auth enabled?
| >
| > The consistent use of SMTP Auth is a nice goal, but from a 
| practical 
| > perspective, we find buggy clients (OE, & O) that under some 
| > circumstances will not reliably authenticate... This is 
| particularly 
| > true when virus scanning software is involved as it tends to place 
| > itself between the client and it's server(s). -- To the end user an 
| > occasional failure is just plain broken, and right or wrong 
| considered 
| > to be our fault. For that reason, on corporate systems I tend to 
| > dial-in the IP block from the end user's network the very 
| first time 
| > we get trouble with authentication.
| 
| I agree.  We're an ISP, and any problem is OUR problem.  If 
| auth cannot be made to reliably function on such major 
| clients as Outlook and Outlook Express (which are used by 
| about 85% of our clients), then it is no solution at all.  
| I've looked at auth, since it would cure a good many 
| problems, especially for those customers who have domains 
| hosted with us, but do not use us as their provider.  
| Unfortunately, spam has made other ISPs so paranoid that they 
| frequently won't deal with mail that is sent from a machine 
| on their subnet, but with an outside email address.
| 
| ---
| AaronC
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