Another interesting thing to note is that with an html most serious
spammers have adopted a web server based analysis of their "exposure
assessment". The simple act of viewing the email causes you to download
one or more images from a web server they can see... They simply look at
the web logs to know how many and in some cases which one's reached a
target. It is our expectation these days that most opt-out email
addresses are just for show unless the source is attempting to be
legitimate.

_M

| -----Original Message-----
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
| [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. 
| Scott Perry
| Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 3:10 PM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Spam "Opt-Out" ?
| 
| 
| 
| >A lot of the spam that I see is HTML that has a "opt-out" link.  I 
| >think that it is not a good idea to ever click on these 
| types of links 
| >as the spammer could just use it to confirm that the 
| recipient read the 
| >email and hence will get even more spam.  What are others' opinions?
| 
| Interesting you should ask.
| 
| The best advice from people "in the know" has always been to 
| never click 
| that "unsubscribe" link or E-mail back to the spammer, 
| because it just 
| verifies that the E-mail really got somewhere and was read.
| 
| On the other hand, it's going to be a lot more work for a spammer to 
| process those unsubscribes when they can just send to their 
| original list 
| again.
| 
| I actually tried testing this out, by creating a spamtrap 
| with an address 
| that was only given out on those unsubscribe links.  It's 
| been given out to 
| a dozen or so unsubscribe links/addresses over the past few 
| months, but not 
| a single spam has arrived at that address.  So it doesn't look like 
| spammers actually look at the addresses.  They *may* 
| sometimes actually use 
| 'em to remove the address from their list -- but given how 
| much spam there 
| is, it likely wouldn't reduce the spam by even a full 1%.
| 
|                                                     -Scott
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