Hello Scott,

As always, thanks for your useful reply -- a few clarifications, if you do
not mind:

----- Original Message -----
From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: NJABL:[IMail Forum] SPAM Realy! Help!


> >SMTP relay is set for "Local Users Only"
>
> Which means "Spammers are allowed to use our system for free, if they are
> willing to pretend to have addresses here."

I understand that concept....

> >SMTP AUTH and VRFY are disabled
>
> SMTP AUTH shouldn't be disabled -- that allows your users to authenticate.

Okay, I will change that...

> >What else can I possibly do to prevent this!?
>
> You run an open relay, which means you offer free mail services to
> spammers.  The good news is that you don't like that idea and want to
close
> your open relay.  To do that:
>
> IMail's SMTP Security options have a number of relaying choices.  Of them,
> only 2 can be used safely (the rest cause you to be an open relay).  The
> two safe options are "Relay for Addresses" and "No Mail Relay".
>
> If you use IMail's "Relay for addresses",  you would enter a list of
"safe"
> IP addresses that your users may come from; anyone not coming from those
> safe IPs would need to use SMTP AUTH.

I can not use addresses in a realistic manner -- we have so many different
IPs from different state agencies that it is not realistic approach.

> If you use "No mail relay", everyone
> must use SMTP AUTH to relay mail.  Note that relay settings apply only to
> outgoing E-mail, so no matter what your settings are, your users will
still
> be able to get mail.

I have tried "No Mail Realy" and enable SMTP AUTH however, when I do this
ALL out going mail fails to be delivered with this error:

The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected by
the server. The rejected e-mail address was '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'.
Subject 'test3', Account: 'mail.esd112.org', Server: 'mail.esd112.org',
Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '550 not local host hotmail.com, not a
gateway', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, Error Number:
0x800CCC79

When Imail was first installed with was give the name
"mail.esd112.k12.wa.us" -- our domain was later changed to esd112.org.  Is
this somehow related to the problem?

Thanks for your help!

Dominic


> So to reiterate:  "Relay for Addresses" or "No Mail Relay" are safe;
> everything else will get you listed in a number of spam databases.
>
>                                                     -Scott
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