Are you using Cogent for your BW?

If you are, AOL shutoff there peering with Cogent because of all the
spammers on Cogent network.


David

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Marchette
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 4:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Imail cannot send to AOL.COM


More on the AOL issue...

This is what I have been seeing also.  Despite my efforts, I have been
unable to figure out the ballistics and weighting they are using to
generate the algorithm for the timing\duration\trigger for the block.   

During my testing, while AOL is 'resetting' the connection, one is
unable to telnet the SMTP port of their servers from the IP of the mail
server(or in some cases, the entire associated subnet).  When one tries
to telnet, the connection is dropped(reset) within a hundred
milliseconds.  Telneting may be a nice quick test you can use to find
out if AOL dislikes your IP for that brief yet unknown period of time.
It turns out that AOL has been doing this for a while now(months), but I
have just recently began to see the patterns.  And this leads me to
believe that perhaps they are keeping archive records of the number of
mails sent in a given time from an IP\Domain and then, when they do
block, it is for a progressively longer and longer period, relative to
the past month's history, or whatever.  
    

Here is what you will see in your logs if AOL is 'on your nuts':

12:18 14:17 SMTP-(000003CE) Trying aol.com (0)
12:18 14:17 SMTP-(000003CE) Connect aol.com [64.12.136.121:25] (1) 12:18
14:17 SMTP-(000003CE) rl-recv: connection reset 12:18 14:17
SMTP-(000003CE) 
12:18 14:17 SMTP-(000003CE) SMTP_DELIV_FAILED
12:18 14:17 SMTP-(000003CE) >QUIT
12:18 14:17 SMTP-(000003CE) rl-recv: connection reset
12:18 14:17 SMTP-(000003CE) 
12:18 14:17 SMTP-(000003CE) requeuing s:\imail\spool\Q337efd002aa.GSC 


 
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Brody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 9:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Imail 6.05 Cannot send to AOL.COM


I spent 12 hours figuring this one out because a client could not get
his newsletter out to most of the 15000 aol email addresses.

In a nutshell, AOL is throttling inbound SMTP connections. Not sure how
their algorithm works but it slectively drops the SMTP connection
(connection reset). It really doesn't appear to have a pattern. They are
doing this - presumeably - to prevent spammers from being able to send
emails at a rapid rate. 

The workaround is to go into SMTP in Imail and set retries at 288 and
the Queue timer at 10 (minutes). This means that Imail will try to send
queued messages each 10 minutes, 288 times (2 days). I figured with all
the testing I did, that I can get 600-700 emails per hour out to AOL. I
sent sent 2500 eamils to AOL last night and watched the .LST files
closely as they went out. It took 36 retries.

Your log file will show something like this when it fails (Ver 7.04):

12:18 16:19 SMTP-(00000684) Connect aol.com [64.12.137.184:25] (1) 12:18
16:19 SMTP-(00000684) s: s (or rl-rcv: connection reset in Ver.
7.1+)
12:18 16:19 SMTP-(00000684) 
12:18 16:19 SMTP-(00000684) SMTP_DELIV_FAILED
12:18 16:19 SMTP-(00000684) >QUIT
12:18 16:19 SMTP-(00000684) s: s
12:18 16:19 SMTP-(00000684) s: s

Hope this helps. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pete Pesce
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 8:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Imail 6.05 Cannot send to AOL.COM


I have been getting the same thing.
It is strange because I can send to certain addresses & Then all of a
sudden I cannot send at all. Does AOL put a Temp  block if you are
sending too many messages to them at once? Please help.

Thank you,

Peter Pesce
VP
PersonalizationMall.com

www.PeresonalizationMall.com


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dustin Freeman
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 9:46 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [IMail Forum] Imail 6.05 Cannot send to AOL.COM


I haven't done a lot of searching yet but has anyone seen this before?
Just in the last few days email to aol.com accounts have been coming
back as undeleverable.  No reson is noted.

Delivery failed 3 attempts: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We have not changed any settings on our server.

Any ideas?

Thank you
Dustin


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