Okay so then Len,

I am trying to test this to make sure this spooling is working correctly.
Would this work for a test then.

Change the a record for mail.scubaont.com to something that will absolutely
not answer for any reason whatsoever (no server there).

Then run a mail test to [EMAIL PROTECTED], since the MTU will get no
response it should try the secondary? Am I starting to understand this
better? I figured that what you expressed may have been the cause of the
problem, someone else is swearing that it is not. I think maybe he is
wrong..

Thanks Len

Darryl


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Len Conrad
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 12:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Am I missing something



>If the first mx record ( in mx 10 mail.scubaont.com) does not answer, or
>returns an invalid response

Any SMTP answer from an MX

>  At
>that point as I understand it the mail should be rerouted by the mail
server
>that sent the mail

no, mail routing for that msg is terminated with the "550 unknown user"
response.

What happens next is that the delivering MTA that has accepted the msg but
receives the 550, will create a new message from mailer-daemon and try to
send that new msg back to the envelope sender.

Note that this new msg is not necessarily identical to the original
message.  eg, in IMGate, I truncate the mailer-daemon msg so that is
contains only the first 2 KB of the original message, which is sufficient
for the sender to identify the msg whose delivery failed.

why? imagine a spammer sending us 1000's of 1 MB msgs with forged, but real
sender names.  I can't tell the msgs are forged, but my 1000's of
mailer-daemon msgs will be max 2 KB each rather than 1 MB, greatly reducing
the burden on my system, and greatly reducing the "attack" on the forged
sender victim to whom I will will bouncing the msgs.

>  through to the second mx record on file and see if it
>gets a valid response from that server. Currently its not getting to the
>second MX record in the list.

It never will.

>Is what I have above correct?

no, the 5xx returned by any MX will terminate the MX algorithm, aka mail
delivery attempts or any other mail routing, for that msg.  GAMEOVER

Len


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