Hello Eric,

Here are comments from my client.  I am just sending what he is giving me.

<Snip from Client>
It's not really a 2nd filter "option".
Using 2 rules filters is a work around that I came up with.

My objective here is to understand which of the mailing list rules tripped
up the
individual, so that I can easily advise the sender how to avoid getting
filtered in the
future.
BTW - The rules are not always about cussing - for instance, I'm trying to
discourage
"Pressure washing" on the "Window cleaning" list, and vice versa.

Anyway, I have several lists with rules files all directing "violations" to
the user
mailbox "filtered".
I read the filtered messages daily, and try to determine whether it's my
fault - or the
senders fault - that the message got filtered.

Sometimes that's real easy, but it can get confusing or complicated, and on
occasion, I've
had to use the dreaded process of elimination - deleting half the rules,
successively to
find the offending line.

I had high hopes that X-IMail-Rules header lines would speed up these daily
investigations, and after the upgrade was disappointed to realize they were
not going to
be added to the headers of trapped mailing list messages.

But I discovered that if I copied a rules.ima file to the directory for the
user
"filtered", then the X-IMail-Rule header would be added the 2nd time -
because the 2nd
rules.ima file was for a user, not a mailing list.

The only problem with that strategy is that I have several lists, with
different rules.ima
files, and I can't possibly reconcile them all into a universal 2nd filter.

So, my busiest mailing list filter serves as the 2nd filter - and I only get
useful
X-IMail-Rule header lines when THAT filter traps a message.

The alternative seems to be to replace the one user mailbox- "filtered" -
with several
user mailboxes - one for each mailing list, and each with its own rules.ima
file,
identical to the corresponding mailing list rules.ima file.

Is there a better way to direct a trapped mailing list message somewhere
along with an
X-IMail-Rule header line?

Or are these 2nd filters the only way to go?
</snip from client>

Sincerely,
Grant Griffith, Vice President
EI8HT LEGS Web Management Co., Inc.
http://www.getafreewebsite.com
877-483-3393

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Shanbrom
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] X-IMail rules header line


well, this might get a bit more complex as the listserver does not add the
X-IMail-Rule header. Can he be a bit more specific as to what he wants to
accomplish? Give us a Sequence of Events then we might be able to come up
with something.

Eric S
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Griffith - IMail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "imail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:04 PM
Subject: [IMail Forum] X-IMail rules header line


> Hello All,
>
> I have a client that uses lists heavily on our server.  He uses rules
files
> to enforce certain requirements for his lists and now that we upgraded to
> IMail 7.14 is experimenting with the new 2nd filter options.
>
> his message is below, does anyone know how I can get the X-Imail header to
> work on Lists?
>
> Sincerely,
> Grant Griffith, Vice President
> EI8HT LEGS Web Management Co., Inc.
> http://www.getafreewebsite.com
> 877-483-3393
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Mauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:43 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Coop Advertising Application
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> I would still like to see if there is a better way to filter mailing list
> rules than what
> I am doing - setting up rules for a list, AND setting up rules for the
> destination mailbox
> (just to see the header line telling which rule captured a message).
>
> The problem is that I have several lists with different rules dumping
> filtered mail into
> one mailbox, and so it will be difficult, if not impossible to properly
> maintain the 2nd
> filter.
> (It will be better than nothing, though.)
>
> Could you ask on the IMail list if anyone is able to get the X-IMail rules
> header line to
> work for mailing lists, simply by having filtered messages sent to the
> correct mailbox?
> Maybe there's something we're missing.
>
>
>
>
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