He means that the disk could be overloaded.  We occasionally see this
problem ourselves on our busier servers - we will receive a burst of
email at once (200-300 messages) and the SMTP servers will actually
become non-responsive for a few minutes.  When this happens, telnet to
port 25 fails, but CPU usage is usually pretty high and I also see a
large number of SMTP processes.  This last bit seems to be different
than the problem you are having.

In any event, you can check your disk usage by going to the Performance
admin tool and monitoring % Disk Time and Current Disk Queue Length.
Ideally, your current disk queue length will be 0, which means zero
tasks will be queued for processing by the disks.  The higher this
number is, the more likely the problem is disk related.

-Jay


-----Original Message-----
From: Mr Gregory DeClue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Continued SMTP Issues

What do you mean the disk is really the problem?  This
is a brand new hard drive that has been installed and
running fine for a month, with no changes to the
system once 8.01 was installed.  

I am unable to telnet to the server on port 25
remotely or setting in front of it and doing a telnet
localhost 25 or telnet 127.0.0.1 25.

The smtpd service never stopes running if I look at
task manager during this time all of the imail
services I run are still running and nothing is using
100% of the cpu or enormous amounts of memory.

The smtp setting I am using is relay for addresses
with only my ip addresses listed.  As I said this
server has been running for a month without a problem,
the only changes I have done are implement the spam
processing and myself and ipswitch have looked thru
the log files trying to find any potential problems
but are unable to...the log is still showing rdeliver
and ldeliver but I am unable to access the smtp port.

Thanks

Greg

--- Len Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Active Connections
> >
> >  Proto  Local Address          Foreign Address
> >State
> >  TCP    0.0.0.0:25             0.0.0.0:0
> >LISTENING
> 
> in the above case, also telnet to that ip port 25
> and see if Imail picks up 
> the phone, or timeout, or connection refused.
> 
> >So I am assuming what you had said about showing
> >possible SMTP/SMTPD thread saturation, meaning no
> more
> >
> >listening
> >(SMTPD) or delivery (SMTP) threads available is
> what
> >is occuring.  What can I do to correct this?
> 
> If the SMTPD is really overwhelmed with "too many"
> simultaneous connections 
> ( I can produce this at will with IMGate as the MX),
> then the problem may 
> be that SMTPD is having trouble dumpting the inbound
> msgs on the queue, the 
> disk is really the problem, not STMPD.
> 
> >   I am
> >using a good kill file, I have all of the spam
> filters
> >correct, I have relay for local addresses enabled
> 
> ip addresses, not email addresses, right?
> 
> it doesn't take much CPU occupation to saturate the
> disk access, so when 
> the state occurs, does task manager show a lot of
> disk i/o?
> 
> Len
> 
> 
> 
>
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