You could add the IP addresses of the COX SMTP servers to your Trusted IP Address 
list, this will bypass ALL AntiSpam filters.


Mike Barber
Software Tester
Ipswitch Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RMilner
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Verify Mail From Address v8.2


I'd love some advice on this one besides get a third party software.

I would like to use the HELO/ELHO COMMANDS for Spam filtering. The problem
is, only 1 Legit Mail server has an issue with it. Unfortunately, it is Cox
Enterprises, which send about 25% of the email that comes in here. They are
like the 10th biggest Privately owned Company in America, owning most of Cox
Cable, Cox Television, Rehser Entertainment, Cox Radio, Manheim Auto
Auctions; Newspapers all over America, The Women's Soccer League, Direct
Mail (snail mail)  businesses etc. I could care less about Cox. net which is
the mail users of Cox cable.

Anyway, all their mail comes through the central server as:

Received: from BATL0S04.cbi.cox.com [67.97.216.253] by mydomain.com with
ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.02) id A70E3B0248; Thu, 04 Sep 2003 19:13:18 -0400
Received: by BATL0S04 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)

The issue is their MIS people do not care about Spam and let everything pass
(many executives have had it with the Spam and I know several are
investigating moving divisions ton outside sources to control it, so this
might be end up being their undoing as well in the MIS Department, but
that's not going to happen tomorrow) so the MIS people see no reason to fix
this on their end:

<<<snip>>
-----Original Message-----
From: (CCI-Atlanta)
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 3:25 PM
To: (CBI-Atlanta)
Cc: (CBI-Atlanta)
Subject: RE: Cox email fails reverse DNS lookup

It looks like for some reason he is trying to reverse lookup the sending
domain - this is batl0s04.cbi.cox.com - however this is inside our firewall,
and he will not be able to look it up from outside (it is a 10. address)

The actual sending IP is NAT'd and reverse DNS lookups fail on it.

<<snip>>

So of course, even though I have their mail server in white list (only works
in phrase checking) and Have the mail server in trusted domains, as it fails
HELO/ELHO, IMail doesn't care that it is trusted.

08:29 14:34 SMTPD(0007018C) [00000292] <mydomain.com> VALIDATION: (HELO)
mydomain.com performing DNS lookup for HELO domain BATL0S04.cbi.cox.com
08:29 14:34 SMTPD(0007018C) [00000292] <mydomain.com> VALIDATION: (HELO)
mydomain.com received reply from DNS server for HELO domain
BATL0S04.cbi.cox.com
08:29 14:34 SMTPD(0007018C) [00000292] <mydomaincom> VALIDATION: (HELO)
BATL0S04.cbi.cox.com domain failed active validation
08:29 14:34 SMTP(04C80002) Got White List and Content Filter for
mydomain.com
08:29 14:34 SMTP(04C80002) [cox.com] in white list


So, anyone have any idea how to enable HELO/ELHO when the MIS people at the
other place don't care their routing/dns is bad and this very powerful tool
cannot be used because of arrogance of the sender's MIS?




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kami Razvan
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Verify Mail From Address v8.2


Hi;

We use it and it works amazingly well.  We add an entry in the header and
evaluate the header later.

Based on my experience no legit email has ever failed that test.

Regards,
Kami

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Biddle
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMail Forum] Verify Mail From Address v8.2


Does anyone recommend enabling the Verify Mail From Address? Or Verify
HELO/EHLO?

Mike


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