> Any  enterprise  application  exposed for web services must run some
> type of A/V software...

Agreed,  generally so, but that's not in the EULA. They're more likely
to  look  the  other  way on the installation of such a "utility," I'm
sure, but I declare again that it's the other way--i.e. they can/could
say  that  AV  is prohibited in court if somebody find a loophole that
their financial people don't like.

>  and  if  it cannot do any of it's own firewall blocking (to prevent
> that included POP3/SMTP service from being hacked) at least needs to
> be behind another firewall.

I believe it's safe to say that most web servers do not run host-based
firewalls as well. This wouldn't stop most orgs from a purchase.

> Yes,  there  is  that.  But, that presumes you don't mind using it's
> weaker  functions  or  a 25-user MSDE app as the data store -- not a
> very big enterprise solution.

Allowed  to use robust RDBMS data store for a mailserver != able to be
an enterprise mailserver (proven all over the mail world).

Number of users of a DB != enterprise capability.

Max  DB  size, which is also limited w/MSDE, is more connected with DB
robustness.  But  you're  mixing  major  apples and oranges to say the
RDBMS  limitation  has anything to do with mailserver capability. What
comprises  a  "capable" mailserver is up to the organization, and many
orgs (see next pp) find what 2003 offers to be just perfect. Is this a
danger  to  IMail?  Quite possibly: those who don't know they need Web
Messaging  and  anti-spam  (with  or  without Declude) could fall into
using  2003,  then  when  it's  time  to  scale  up  to WM, groupware,
anti-spam,  (assuming,  as  I do, that MS SMTP/POP3 performs its tasks
with  stability and high performance) they'd already be in the MS camp
and  would  have  the  resultant bureaucratic bottlenecks in trying to
move  to  another  vendor. MS SMTP/POP3 is a perfect way to bring more
downstream business for Exchange.

> But,  as  you have said (and I agreed), Exchange could not be run on
> the  same  server,  it  would  have  to  be  on  a  separate server.

Didn't  say  anything  about  Exchange,  actually. What I said is that
SMTP/POP3  services  are  built  in  to  the 2003 OS. Many, many IMail
users,   and  users  of  countless  other  solutions,  consider  those
components alone to comprise a "full blown mail server application."

-Sandy


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Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
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