Hi Mike,

I will try that and See the result.

Thanks,
Miguel

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Barber
Sent: Thursday, 04 December, 2003 14:56
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Backup Imail Server is open Relay !!!

Oops... Make sure the Main server won't relay for the backup server.

The main server doesn't have to have the backup mail servers IP address in
the relay for addresses list to allow the backup server to send messages to
it.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Barber
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Backup Imail Server is open Relay !!!


You make sure that neither of your mail servers will relay for each other.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Miguel Jamous
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 3:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMail Forum] Backup Imail Server is open Relay !!!


 Hello all,

Yesterday we received a message from ORDB.org that our Backup server an Open
Relay. Our Backup Server is configured only to relay our IP range and
nothing else.

They gave us the following headers :

[Header Start]
Return-Path: 
X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from mail.iway.be (mail.iway.be [194.78.12.12])
        by BocksCar.ORDB.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CC65577
        for ; Tue,  2 Dec 2003 17:46:49 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from mail.antwerp.iway.be [194.78.12.6] by mail.iway.be with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.04) id AE8A349500C6; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:40:26 +0100
Received: from ordb.org [62.79.110.122] by mail.antwerp.iway.be with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.04) id AFE3B3060056; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:46:11 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-ORDB-Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-ORDB-Envelope-To: @iway.be:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ORDB.org check (0.3422127455797650.9665409000) ip=194.78.12.6
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue,  2 Dec 2003 17:46:49 +0000 (GMT) [Header Stop]

We went to look a our log files to see how they did it:

[first attempt:failed]
12:02 18:30 SMTPD(BAF60038) [62.242.0.190] EHLO localhost.localdomain
12:02 18:30 SMTPD(BAF60038) [62.242.0.190] MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:30 SMTPD(BAF60038) [62.242.0.190] RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:30 SMTPD(BAF60038) [62.242.0.190] ERR mail.antwerp.iway.be invalid
user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[second attempt:failed]
12:02 18:31 SMTPD(BAF80038) [62.242.0.190] EHLO localhost.localdomain
12:02 18:31 SMTPD(BAF80038) [62.242.0.190] MAIL
FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:31 SMTPD(BAF80038) [62.242.0.190] RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:31 SMTPD(BAF80038) [62.242.0.190] ERR mail.antwerp.iway.be invalid
user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[third attempt:failed]
12:02 18:32 SMTPD(7E190032) [62.242.0.190] EHLO localhost.localdomain
12:02 18:32 SMTPD(7E190032) [62.242.0.190] MAIL
FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:32 SMTPD(7E190032) [62.242.0.190] RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:32 SMTPD(7E190032) [62.242.0.190] ERR mail.antwerp.iway.be invalid
user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[four attempt:failed]
12:02 18:33 SMTPD(BAFB0038) [212.242.88.3] EHLO ordb.org
12:02 18:33 SMTPD(BAFB0038) [212.242.88.3] MAIL
FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:33 SMTPD(BAFB0038) [212.242.88.3] RCPT
TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:33 SMTPD(BAFB0038) [212.242.88.3] ERR mail.antwerp.iway.be invalid
user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[fith attempt:failed]
12:02 18:34 SMTPD(7E1A0032) [62.242.0.190] EHLO localhost.localdomain
12:02 18:34 SMTPD(7E1A0032) [62.242.0.190] MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:34 SMTPD(7E1A0032) [62.242.0.190] RCPT
TO:<"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"@antwerp.iway.be>
12:02 18:34 SMTPD(7E1A0032) [62.242.0.190] ERR mail.antwerp.iway.be invalid
user <"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"@antwerp.iway.be

[sixth attempt:failed]
12:02 18:35 SMTPD(CF3C0098) [62.242.0.190] EHLO localhost.localdomain
12:02 18:35 SMTPD(CF3C0098) [62.242.0.190] MAIL
FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:35 SMTPD(CF3C0098) [62.242.0.190] RCPT TO:<marvin.ordb.org!marvin>
12:02 18:35 SMTPD(CF3C0098) [62.242.0.190] ERR mail.antwerp.iway.be invalid
user <marvin.ordb.org!marvin

[seventh attempt:failed]
12:02 18:37 SMTPD(7E1F0032) [212.242.88.2] EHLO ordb.org
12:02 18:37 SMTPD(7E1F0032) [212.242.88.2] MAIL
FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:37 SMTPD(7E1F0032) [212.242.88.2] RCPT
TO:<@[194.78.12.6]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:37 SMTPD(7E1F0032) [212.242.88.2] ERR mail.antwerp.iway.be invalid
user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[194.78.12.6]

[eight attempt:failed]
12:02 18:38 SMTPD(CACB0062) [212.242.88.3] EHLO ordb.org
12:02 18:38 SMTPD(CACB0062) [212.242.88.3] MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:38 SMTPD(CACB0062) [212.242.88.3] RCPT
TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:38 SMTPD(CACB0062) [212.242.88.3] ERR mail.antwerp.iway.be invalid
user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[nine attempt:failed]
12:02 18:39 SMTPD(7E200032) [212.242.88.2] EHLO ordb.org
12:02 18:39 SMTPD(7E200032) [212.242.88.2] MAIL
FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:39 SMTPD(7E200032) [212.242.88.2] RCPT
TO:<"[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
12:02 18:39 SMTPD(7E200032) [212.242.88.2] ERR mail.antwerp.iway.be invalid
user <"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

[tenth attempt:failed]
12:02 18:40 SMTPD(CACF0062) [62.242.0.190] EHLO localhost.localdomain
12:02 18:40 SMTPD(CACF0062) [62.242.0.190] MAIL
FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:40 SMTPD(CACF0062) [62.242.0.190] RCPT
TO:<"[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
12:02 18:40 SMTPD(CACF0062) [62.242.0.190] ERR mail.antwerp.iway.be invalid
user <"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

[eleven attempt:failed]
12:02 18:43 SMTPD(B3030056) [80.199.176.219] EHLO ordb.org
12:02 18:43 SMTPD(B3030056) [80.199.176.219] MAIL
FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:43 SMTPD(B3030056) [80.199.176.219] RCPT
TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:43 SMTPD(B3030056) [80.199.176.219] ERR mail.antwerp.iway.be
invalid user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[twelve attempt:failed]
12:02 18:44 SMTPD(B3040056) [217.157.20.141] EHLO ordb.org
12:02 18:44 SMTPD(B3040056) [217.157.20.141] MAIL
FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:44 SMTPD(B3040056) [217.157.20.141] RCPT
TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:44 SMTPD(B3040056) [217.157.20.141] ERR mail.antwerp.iway.be
invalid user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[thirteen attempt:SUCCES!]
12:02 18:46 SMTPD(B3060056) [62.79.110.122] EHLO ordb.org
12:02 18:46 SMTPD(B3060056) [62.79.110.122] MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:46 SMTPD(B3060056) [62.79.110.122] RCPT
TO:<@iway.be:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:46 SMTPD(B3060056) [62.79.110.122]
f:\IMail\spool\Dcfe3b3060056967a.SMD 899

And since this is our backup server the mail is sent to main server and
relayed because the main trust the backup server!

12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) processing f:\IMail\spool\Qcfe3b3060056967a.SMD
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) Trying iway.be (0)
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) Connect iway.be [194.78.12.12:25] (1)
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) 220 mail.iway.be (IMail 8.04 214-5) NT-ESMTP
Server X1
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) >EHLO mail.antwerp.iway.be
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) 250-mail.iway.be says hello
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) 250-SIZE 0
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) 250-8BITMIME
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) 250-DSN
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) 250-ETRN
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) 250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) 250-AUTH=LOGIN
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) 250 EXPN
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) >MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) 250 ok
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) >RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) 250 ok its for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) >DATA
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) 354 ok, send it; end with <CRLF>.<CRLF>
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) >.
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) 250 Message queued
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) rdeliver iway.be [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(1) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 933
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) >QUIT
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) 221 Goodbye
12:02 18:46 SMTP-(0386000F) finished f:\IMail\spool\Qcfe3b3060056967a.SMD
status=1

What to do Here ?????????????????



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