Take a look at ASSP (http://assp.sourceforge.net). After training, it cut
our spam down tremendously. I still block a lot of APNIC space as well as
some selected networks in other parts of the world, but ASSP has been the
best spam filter I've yet seen.

There is another program in development that looks very interesting called
TarProxy (http://www.martiansoftware.com).

Getting angry at mail admins is a waste of time and doesn't solve the
problem.

Randall Scott


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Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 12:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Blocking spam


Jason wrote:

>I would be angry also, but the question then becomes:  Who should I be
>angry with?.
>
>The theory here is that if you have a spammer hitting you from a class C
>and the offending addresses span the class C as this one did (.250, .9),
>then should I be mad at the mail admins that are sick and tired of
>scanning provider subnets for spammers, or should I be mad at the
>subscriber network that does almost nothing to stop the epidemic of
>spam?
>
>
>

Unless I mis-understood (wouldn't be the first time!) Len's message,
after getting spam from 207.218.67.9, what he did was search his logs
for any other spam from the same class C range.  After finding others
there, the entire class C was blocked, without further research that all
the hits were the same offender.  In this particular case, the risk of a
false positive is fairly small since the spam hits cover pretty much the
entire range of the Class C.  But, if a mail admin blocked
12.107.134.0/24 because he  didn't do enough research to see that the
sources were in 12.107.134.0/25, my mail server would be a collateral
casualty.

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Bud Durland, CNE                                   Mold-Rite Plastics
Network Administrator                           http://www.mrpcap.com
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