The way I understand your 'problem' is that you are really looking for a
failover solution, not a mail-bagging solution.  I really just want to
clarify what you are asking for so forgive me if I seem off-center.

Are you just wanting to 'not lose inbound mail' when box1 dies?

Or

Are you wanting a user to be able to 'log-in' and both send and receive
under their account credentials from box2 when box1 fails for some
reason (maintenance, whatever)?

If you are looking simply to continue to receive inbound mail, that is
achieved by secondary mx's and gateway / forwarding, whatever.

The other solution is a LOT more complex and honestly I would love to
play with how to achieve it, but simply put, you had to have an active /
active type cluster of some sort.  Somehow you would have to have the
imail info. Duplicated / shared whatever under two servers' watchful
eyes.  Not easily accomplished imho, but possible maybe.  Definitely not
for the faint of heart.


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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Mauer
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 8:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Backup mail server when the primary is down

Bob,

I don't thing this is correct, if your secondary mx record box is
outside the firewall and your primary doesn't answer mail requests, the
sending smtp server will know it as nothing will answer the request.
That is unless your firewall is responding to the smtp request which it
probably isn't. Most firewalls merely pass thru the request.

You also might want to consider a better firewall which can port map
more than one device to the same port. cisco 501 may work for you
depending on how many folks you have behind it,,, they are now around
$400.

doug

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob 
> Schmalzigan
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 4:03 PM
> To: Imail Forum
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Backup mail server when the primary is down
>
>
> Greg,
> I have been setting up the very same situation, however my mail server

> is located behind a firewall which forwards the mail to imailserver. 
> The "backup" server is a linux sendmail box located in front of the 
> firewall because unfortunately my firewall can forward mail to only 
> one server at a time. I have configured the backup as a 20 mx record 
> and set up an additional service or account in the mail clients to 
> retrieve mail from it if the primary is down. This does not work 
> however because even though imailserver is down the proxy server is 
> where mx 10 is pointed at all times and the outside world thinks the 
> proxy server is the mail server so as a result I can never get any 
> mail to the backup unless the firewall is down also. So I am looking 
> for an alternate solution as well.
>
>
> Bob
> On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 15:08, Greg Foulks wrote:
> > I've been reading in the mail about how to setup a secondary
> mail server
> > for when the primary is down. I understand what its saying but was 
> > just wondering something. The book says to setup the secondary as a 
> > gateway and have it store and forward messages for when the primary 
> > is down. Is it not possible to setup the secondary so that it then 
> > becomes the primary when the primary machine is down? I guess what 
> > I'm trying to do is to still allow messages to be sent and received 
> > when the primary server is down for reboots or maintenance without 
> > having to make any changes on the client side (transparent).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Greg
> >
> >
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