Hi Eric That's very useful thanks for that. Do you not worry about cleaning up the headers etc as the manual suggestions before running this tool?
Thanks, G. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Shanbrom (Ipswitch) Sent: 03 August 2004 04:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] AntiSpam Statistical Updates one other comment I should have said... I do not monitor these mailboxes as there is really no need... I have to trust that my users are doing this correctly....If you do want to monitor them just use either Web Messaging or set up these userid in your client as IMAP Eric S ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Shanbrom (Ipswitch)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] AntiSpam Statistical Updates > Here is something that I wrote up to automate the spamseeder > process...pay attention to the assumptions (change if necessary) and > values that are not in your configuration and adjust accordingly. > Personally I schedule this to > run every hour. just watch out for wrapping in your mail client.. I > have added a "*" where lines are supposed to begin. Remove the "*"s > and un-wrap > this into a text editor for this to > work > > Hope this helps > Eric S > > > spamseeder.bat > ---------------- > > *REM THIS PROGRAM WILL RUN IMAIL'S ANTI-SPAM SEEDER > *REM Assumptions: Missed spam sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *REM False hits sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *REM IMail root path = D:\Imail > *REM To make it work for you replace text between <<>> with > correct data for your config > [EMAIL PROTECTED] OFF > *D: > *CD\IMAIL > *REM > *REM PROCESSING SPAM THAT WAS MISSED > *:CHECKSPAMMAIL > *IF EXIST d:\imail\users\spam\main.mbx GOTO PROCESSSPAM > *IF EXIST d:\imail\users\falsespam\main.mbx GOTO PROCESSFALSE *GOTO > REPORTS *:PROCESSSPAM > *ANTISPAMSEEDER -spam -h<<YOUR OFFICIAL HOST > NAME>> -md:\imail\users\spam\main.mbx > D:\IMAIL\ADSPAM.TXT > *DEL d:\imail\users\spam\main.* > *GOTO CHECKSPAMMAIL > *:PROCESSFALSE > *REM PROCESSING FALSE SPAM HITS > *ANTISPAMSEEDER -good -h<<YOUR OFFICIAL HOST > NAME>> -md:\imail\users\falsespam\main.mbx > D:\IMAIL\FALSESPAM.TXT > *DEL d:\imail\users\falsespam\main.* > *GOTO CHECKSPAMMAIL > *REM SEND REPORTS > *:REPORTS > *IF EXIST D:\IMAIL\ADSPAM.TXT GOTO SENDSPAM > *IF EXIST D:\IMAIL\FALSESPAM.TXT GOTO SENDFALSE > *GOTO END > *REM > *REM Send email notification of process being run > *REM > *:SENDSPAM > *IMAIL1 -f ADSPAM.TXT -u <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> -h <<YOUR OFFICIAL > HOST > NAME>> -t <<address of report recipient>> -s "Missed Spam Seed > NAME>> Processing" > *DEL D:\IMAIL\ADSPAM.TXT > *GOTO REPORTS > *:SENDFALSE > *IMAIL1 -f FALASESPAM.TXT -u <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> -h <<YOUR > OFFICIAL HOST NAME>> -t <<address of report recipient>> -s "False Spam > Seed Processing" *DEL D:\IMAIL\FALSESPAM.TXT > *GOTO REPORTS > *:END > *exit > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 5:09 PM > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] AntiSpam Statistical Updates > > > > > > >Thanks for the reply. I think I didn't explain myself very well. I guess > the > > >question is how do I effectively make the system learn? Will it do > > >it automatically (how, what's the intelligence like), or will I > > >need to > provide > > >good and spam emails for it to work on? > > > > For it to work as designed, each user needs to continually submit as much > > of their spam and legitimate E-mail as possible, and run it through > > the training program. > > > > Some people have tried to automate this, but it is impossible to do > > so (to > > do so automatically requires knowing if the E-mail is spam or legitimate; > > if you can figure that out automatically, you don't need the > > Bayesian filtering). > > > > >However I'm keen to use the imail analysis to it's full potential. > > >I know > > >you can give it a mailbox to learn from, but I was wondering if I > > >could output a list of spam and good from outlook in to a text file > > >and then > call > > >it folder.mbx for the antispamseeder.exe tool to work on. > > > > That is what you should do, but unfortunately I can't say how it > > would be > > done (I've never really used IMail v8's anti-spam). > > > > The problem is that if you don't do this for all users, you will > > find that > > the statistics do not work properly for some users. For example, > > for an average user, the word "mortgage" in an E-mail may indicate a > > 99% chance > of > > spam. However, for someone who works at a bank or someone who is > > about to > > buy a house or someone who only recently started getting spam, it > > may be well under 50%. If one of those people who differs from the > > norm doesn't > > train the engine, their legitimate E-mails will be more likely to be > marked > > as spam. > > > > That's why we never incorporated Bayesian filtering in Declude > > JunkMail. We experimented with it years ago (well before any > > anti-spam program incorporated it!), but found that the benefits did > > not outweigh > the > > drawbacks (the constant training by all users, and the problem with > > spammers adding random words to their E-mails). > > > > >Having search the list, some people swear by ASSP. I guess there > > >seems no > > >point in having some detection if you can not update it easily. > > > > That all depends on what angle of attack you use in detecting spam > > -- for > > example, Declude JunkMail doesn't require any training, downloading > > definitions, etc. Instead, it uses techniques that we have > > developed > since > > 1997 to detect patterns in spam without having to look for key > > words. > > > > -Scott > > --- > > Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail > > mailservers since 2000. 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