Based on my own log files, fully 75% of spam comes from "unknown"  and I fail
to see how SPF records will affect this, as opposed to the rule of
REJECT_UNKNOWN_SENDER.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bud Durland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SPF Impacts to ISPs


: Glenn Smith wrote:
:
: >Someone's just pointed me to http://spf.pobox.com/ which looks like there
could be a whole load of impacts to ISPs.
: >
: >Has anyone really looked in to this and found anything useful out? From our
perspective, we only send email out from our server for our domains, so not a
huge issue to add them, although a real pain.
: >
: >But if you think about someone offering dialup, and they have users sending
email with the from address as a personally registered domain rather than the
ISPs through the ISP mail server it would stop working.
: >
: >
: >
:
:  From what I've seen, SPF is much more useful as a "fail" test than as a
: "pass" test.  When you set up SPF, in effect you are saying
: "Legitimately sent email that claims to be from my domain(s) will come
: from these IP addresses".  The most obvious "fail" scenario is the
: spammer sending mail via a zombie computer on a broadband connection,
: with a forged return address of "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".  Presuming Yahoo
: has SPF set up, the receiving mail server or client has a mechanism to
: check (and cast doubt) on the message.  So, as an ISP,  the benefit to
: you with SPF is additional verification of an e-mail's legitimacy.
:
: On the other hand, many major spam houses were quick to add SPF to their
: won domains.  They did this because at first, many people were
: incorrectly presuming that if an incoiming message passed SPF, it
: probably wasn't spam.  This is not true; passing SPF simply means that
: the return address in the e-mail probably does belong to the same domain
: as the host sending it.
:
: We use Delcude Junkmail here.  I add a small amount of weight to
: messages that fail SPF, and neither penalize or reward messages that
: pass SPF or don't have SPF set up at all.
:
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