Hi Steinar, Oops, this is a missunderstanding, i declared the subscription for IMail only as 'classic'.
I fact, a subscription makes no sense at all, since IMail as a standalone Mail-Server is no more available. This means, major upgrades for IMail will also no more available, i guess. Minor Upgrades are for free anyway. This means, a subscription is useless anyway. I have to verify this with ipswitch. ============================================ Am Montag, 25. Oktober 2004 um 20:26 schrieben Sie: > Do you mean that WebMail Classic no longer will be available? > We are running a free webmail service with several thousand users. Are we to > pay several thousand $ dollars for something that we will never use or never > get anything back on, returnwise? The least thing they can do, if they do > not change their minds, is to give existing users a much better deal. > 2 months to decide/be forced on a big investment is not really an option. > This is really the lowest of all blows that I ever have come across in my > years on the internet. > The Collaboration Suite was first suggested as a small add-on, then as > things took longer and longer to complete I was getting worried that this > might happen. > I also find it really unethical to ask us to pay service agreements for a > full year when knowingly having this up their sleeve, SHAME ON YOU IPSWITCH. > We will also be looking to replace IMail. > I'M shocked and pissed, > Steinar Rasch >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> Martin Schaible >> Sent: 25. oktober 2004 20:00 >> To: John Carter >> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :( >> >> Hi, >> >> Last week I had a very long phone call with ipswitch about >> ICS and the future of IMail. >> So, Ipswitch moves to the direction "buy nothing or >> everthing". The really big shock is >> this, that an normal subscription will nore more be available. >> >> As an small ISP, we can't afford an upgrade to ICS. Simple like that. >> We made a quick phone poll to our customers and everbody was >> upset about this new strategy. >> >> Mostly all customers ha choosen IMail as a simple, powerful >> but affordable Mail-Server. >> About 50% are running AntiVirus Standard, the others have an >> seperate Antivirus Gateway. >> >> As an gold partner of ipswitch, i'm really afraid to lose >> most of our IMail-customers. >> Our customers are *not* willing to buy things, they don't need. >> >> I hope, that tons of customers worldwide are also upset and >> ipswitch will follow to the customer >> needs and not the dreams of the marketing department. >> >> Or in other words: Give us IMail Pro back, including the >> simple subscriptions and >> offer all Gadgets seperatly. >> >> To answer some questions, before they will occur: >> >> - AntiVirus Pro or standard is included. IMail without any >> AntiVirus solution is not supported. >> - "Classic" Subscriptions are no longer available. >> - ICS is bound to certain numbers of seats or unlimited. >> >> >> ============================================ >> Am Montag, 25. Oktober 2004 um 19:31 schrieben Sie: >> >> > Actually my concerns are more about the future life of >> Imail as separate >> > stand-alone email server. Or will it become so integrated into the >> > Collaboration package that one will be forced to the >> package? Also will >> > Imail development/improvements take a back seat to the package? >> >> > John >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> John Tolmachoff >> > (Lists) >> > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:16 PM >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Subject: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :( >> > Importance: High >> >> > I don't believe this. >> >> > Instead of creating an add-on package, the collaboration >> package is an all >> > encompassing package, including Imail, Premium Anti-Virus >> and Killer Webmail >> > templates. >> >> > This is crazy. >> >> > You are being asked to pay for Imail again along with >> paying for "Premium >> > Anit-Virus" even if you already have Imail and do not want >> the Anti-Virus. >> >> > John Tolmachoff >> > Engineer/Consultant/Owner >> > eServices For You >> >> >> >> >> > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html >> > List Archive: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ >> > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ >> >> >> > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html >> > List Archive: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ >> > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ >> >> ============================================ >> >> -- >> >> Mit freundlichen Gr�ssen >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> Merlin Consulting >> Martin Schaible >> Bahnhofstrasse 27 >> CH-8702 Zollikon >> >> Phone: +41 1 391 30 00 >> Fax: +41 1 391 32 49 >> >> Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> URL: http://www.merlinconsulting.ch >> Support: http://support.merlinconsulting.ch >> >> GPS: N47 20.235 E8 34.226 >> -------------------------------------------- >> News - Neue Produkte: >> >> .:. 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