>> The end result is that even if Ipswitch product management
>> realizes their disastrous mistake, wises up, and recants, 
>> continuing to offer the base product, many customers are now 
>> looking elsewhere that may not have otherwise.  So no matter 
>> what happens, Ipswitch will lose sales.


As  a Ipswitch VAR, I justed talked to our Ipswitch Partner in Germany
and can confirm the whole thing.

- Imail is dead
- COS is the only available Server. (in the difrent packages)
- running subscriptions are valid, could not be renewd
- if  you upgrade you will get a special price and the remaining time of
your old subscribtion will be added

Offical new pricing for germany will be out in the next days (2. Nov)

I told him my concerns. His answer was that it is a good deal compared
with  excange  and  Symantec  AV...  But  he  was shure that if enough
customers   complain   and   the  product  could not be sold well that
Ipswitch might change their attitude.

For  me  I  am  convinced  that
a)  COS is not the product needed and wanted by most of IMail users
b)  COS  is  not  the  right  alternative to Excange (Either use
Excange or a free server...)
c)   Ipswitch  ignored theit customer base and dropped a good and well
known  product for something complete diferent. Why can somebody be so
stupid and drop even the well known product name?

Imail  was  a  good  alternative  for  Excange (if you just needed the
mail  part)  or  other  Mail  products.  So  now  their is no Ipswitch
alternative to suggest to our customers.

If  you  are  lloking  for  a  free  alternative to Imail on a windows
System, have a look at Hmail server
http://sourceforge.net/projects/hmailserver/
http://www.hmailserver.com/
The   GUI  is  very  similar! Maybe this and similar programs are the reaseon why they
change their market?


All features
Protocols supported: 
POP3 
SMTP 
IMAP 

Database types supported:
MySQL (built-in)
MySQL (external) 
Microsoft SQL Server 
 
Languages supported:
Dutch
English 
French 
German 
Italian 
Norwegian 
Spanish 
Swedish 

User features:
Aliases/distribution lists
AntiVirus 
Filters 
Spam protection 
Vacation messages 
Webmail (SquirrelMail) 
Web-based administration 
 
Other miscallenous features:
COM API
Routing 
IP ranges 
Mirroring 
Open relay protection 
Paralell delivery of email 
Virtual domains 
 
So  a  perfect  and  free Imail alternative (and nearly as easy to install as
Imail!)


Matti Haack



> Exactly what heppened here. Just the naughtiness placing this new "offer"
> without a public announcement is asking to "honor" it with a big mistrust in
> the future.

> I've created a big crowd of scripts, settings and tools working around the
> imail server. All this is working fine even if there are missing important
> features like detection and blocking of dictionary attacks. 

> I'm so enraged about this that I decided to not even download the ICS trial
> version. Maybe the RAM usage is grown in the same manner as the price and so
> comparable to exchange boxes. 


>> Sounds like some product managers will soon be looking for a new job.

> Not only product managers. Also the cleaning lady and any other people
> working at this "company" !  Baaahhh!!!

> Markus




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